Quote ="vastman"Kinley, I give you my explanation for what happened. That is all I can give you based on what fragments of info I have, I really don't know what you want from people who don't share your theories - total surrender.
I've never asked for proof that the club wasn't being run well, I asked for proof that it was being run criminally which is what people are saying when they claim Ted pocketed cash he wasn't entitled to - why do you struggle so much with that concept.
Of course it wasn't just bad luck. But as a scenario, imagine for whatever reason Glasshoughton fails what state do you think that would leave Castleford in and how long before they crashed just like we did. I'd say most SL clubs are close to the brink but most have a stronger base than we did, can I prove it no that's why I say I'm guessing so often.
I said Pickles was the pantomime villian ffs PANTOMIME, I agree it's not his fault he can do what he wants until the electorate kick him out, it was just an example of bad luck on one mans whim that cost us big that's all.
I have explained as best I can with the limited knowledge I have the issues raised in the credit report. I don't expect you to agree but I do expect you to accept their are alternative explanations and no matter how much you stamp your feet I'm not going to agree with you on this one.'"
Nobody mentioned criminality Vastman, you brought that up, you were responding to my point about mismanagement, i notice you edited your post, perhaps to shoe horn that point in so to speak?!
When you were explaining about Barnes' involvement i didn't realise you were piecing together fragments, i thought you were telling me facts, however TRB posted so i assumed he knew what he was talking about, hence i asked him, if you do not know, don't feel the need to involve yourself in that question, if all you have is assumptions.
I accept many things Vastman, i was just pointing out that the Credit report is based on facts, the ones you crave, and when presented with ones you don't like, you try to discount them, strange!
I am not trying to get you to surrender or indeed change your mind or whatever it is that you think, i remember someone on here, saying something about strong opinions and differing points of view.
Oh hang on it was you, i find it all a little complexing how your strong opinions and points of view, don't like to be examined too much.
