has anybody been charged by the rfl for the incident or was it caused by deliberate attempt to foul another player? don't like long term injuries and he has been playing well but it was caused by his deliberate foul play!

The thing I dont understand is that any player from any club in the same position as McGuire last night would have done exactly the same..............and if they hadnt the same fans who are creating about "cheating" would be blasting their own player for not "cheating"

yes can remember Kevin Henderson interfering with play when BJ ran in a try against cas it did get canceled, the cheating sod

happy now

Cheats never prosper...........so they tell me

I owe you an apology, he does indeed point and shout at Uncle Albert, watched it back myself and you are right.

I also want to add that I don't condone Danny's actions but simply state that I understand why he did it and why the list of SL players from all clubs that would have indeed chosen to do exactly the same is very, very long and to think otherwise is foolish IMO.

I am not sure that cynical cheating is creeping onto the game that much, but we must remember that now we are a full-time sport that players will make these sort of calls a little more often as their living depends on it. To be fair, I have bigger issues from a moral and 'spirit of the game' perspective with Sam Tomkins deliberately trapping tacklers arms under the ball in order to solicit a penalty. He did it twice in this game and has been doing it all season... clearly knowingly and with that intent from the outset. Danny made a call born out of desperation, in the dying seconds of the game, to try and prevent a supporting player getting to support his team mate thinking it might lose his club, the club that he makes his living playing for, from winning an important game!

Cheers for the apology; it wasn't necessary, but it's appreciated.

I don't agree with your suggestion that [umost[/u players would do what McGuire did; some would for sure, but judging by the relatively low number of blatant professional fouls we see each week, I'd say he's the exception rather than the rule.

As for Tomkins, I'd agree with you that what he does isn't pretty BUT - if you don't stick your arms in to try to dislodge the ball in the first place, he won't have the opportunity to trap them. Sinfield and McGuire both played into his hands by trying to force the ball out during the tackle by getting their arms between it and his body, and he exploited them ruthlessly. And for the record, Sinfield wasn't trapped in any way by the time Alibert blew it up - he had his arm laid across Tomkins chest/neck and made no attempt at all to clear the ruck; he was trying to extract a penalty by exposing Tomkins attempt to extract a penalty, and failed.

I'll have to agree to disagree with you in respect of the cynicism that's creeping into RL; that's the inevitable consequence of Sky money and the franchise system!