For the Hull game - assuming that its on. Ashurst and Kirke out. Wonder if the order is significant for starting line uop

Craig Hall

Chris Riley
Dean Collis
Reece Lyne
Richard Owen

Jacob Miller
Tim Smith

Nick Scruton
Paul McShane
Mickael Simon
Danny Kirmond
Danny Washbrook
Daniel Smith

Scott Anderson
Pita Godinet
Lopini Paea
Matt Ryan
Jarrod Sammut
Tom Johnstone
Ali Lauitiiti
Jon Molloy
Chris Annakin

I think we will be putting out a largely second string side. We have a few guys with knocks who won't be risked (exception may be Ellis since it's his game), and most of the first team have played twice already and may well be wrapped up in cotton wool.

Thanks that will encourage spectators.

Lost all interest in Gareth Ellis when he finally decided he wanted to play for Leeds instead of us, so I could not give a stuff what side they put out, When I see BLM I'll give him my entrance money for a worthy cause like Crigg all blacks new changing rooms.

When I say second string I don't mean that it will be the under 19s or anything, but Rankin, Watts and Ellis all have injuries and I reckon a few key players will be rested.

If I was to guess a team:

Shaul
Lancaster
Sa
Michaels
Talanoa
Abdull
Sneyd
Bowden
Cunningham
Green
Whiting
Hadley
Westerman

Then a bench of 7 or 8 fringe players.

You can hardly play Ellis for wanting to move to Leeds and looking how his career has gone, it looks like a very justified decision, I bit like Tom Briscoe leaving us for Leeds.

The question should be, did he give his all when he played in a Wakey shirt?

FWIW I think we will play a pretty strong squad barring injuries, it will be really disappointing if Ellis cannot play.

seems pretty harsh and you could hardly blame the lad

Nobody can blame anyone for wanting to "better" themselves but, once the rumour surfaced that he may be going to Leeds, it was like one of those 80's hairspray adverts.
Will he or wont he, in the end the situation was finally sorted in the off season and we lost one of our best prospects and club captain, which certainly damaged the club.

As I said, you cant blame the guy, but it didn't do Wakefield any good.

Ellis was superb for Wakey and led by example.
He was always going to move to bigger and better things as has been said.
And when Leeds weren't big enough, he went to the NRL and was superb there also.
I have nothing but praise for Ellis, he's been there and done it, whilst some other 'top' players have stopped in the comfort zone.
The biggest thing that hurt Wakey, was getting money for Ellis, instead of a couple of players from Leeds.
We had money but no one to spend it on until Julian O'Neill smelt the money from France and the rest is history.

Ditto
He gave everything while at Wakefield (and probably a few other people's share too).
He didn't do the dirty on us in anyway imho.

I don't blame Ellis for going to Leeds, or for going to Oz and fwiw coming back to Hull fc for that matter, we all know how short a career it can be in what is a brutal sport, where the rewards are better for some than others, having said that some more than others act in a dignified and professional manner when changing clubs', unfortunately imo Mr Ellis did not cover himself in too much glory with his I might or I might not attitude before finally deciding to leave the club which did not impress me too much. HTH
Fwiw he played around hundred or so games for us, so the answer to your question is that he must have given his all for the club as you would have expected him to as you would every other player to do so as well.

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A young lad torn between a better job with better prospects or staying with his mates (and earning less), no wonder it took him some time to decide his future. He won't be the first in Rugby League or any other walk of life faced with that decision.

A good player and a decent bloke.