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| I have to say I agree with Rach and Diehard. This is great work from Len.
As a former trained analyst for a large financial institution in my earlier years I would have no issue with that piece of work. Whether it be sport, retail or financial you want to compare year on year performance. You are always going to have variables and in this case it's the players/staff and the coach/management. This should not prevent a comparison and may in essence explain the performance issue. In Len's case he's compared this season against last and shown under-performance, albeit, not as dire as some would make out. There will be any number of reasons for this, be it players, coaching or maybe other factors.
Looking at it simply and I think Diehard eluded to it, we are not clinical enough with ball in hand and fail to punish teams' mistakes. Defensively we are conceding some soft tries. Thursday was a shining example. We conceded early and then had a period of pressure but failed to capitalise on Featherstone's errors. They then rode the little storm and punished us.
All in all, I for one didn't expect us to beat Fax, Feav or Leigh, but hoped we would show progression from last season. I expected us to beat Swinton and Haven so I am disappointed.
Do I think the Board will make changes, no. I'm not sure they can afford to.
Would a defeat against York make PM's position untenable, maybe not, but the game on Sunday is massive.
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| Quote ="Dominance"
Do I think the Board will make changes, no. I'm not sure they can afford to.
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As I mentioned in an earlier post , I suspect the balance sheet could be quite healthy
with only paying lose match fees to the players thus far ....So ,maybe they could afford
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| It's my ethic that it's only when you are at the bottom you know how really good a club you are. This club belongs to [uUS[/u so get involved. Such things as getting a team together and spruce things up around the ground, contribute to the programme, buy a half-time draw ticket. For the price of a pint every week join Squadbuilder and then we can fund more players. I don't think it has been recognised what an incredible job Margaret Procter has done with the Squadbuilder. It is the small things that can really do great things indeed.
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| Quote ="Rach"BULL !!!
That is just rubbish , how many threads on here have mentioned JD , Obsty and the like from LAST season???
Yet again on here somebody comes on here with a reasoned well researched and valid point and its dismissed so trivially so you can continue the moaning -its like listening to old ladies on a bus !!!'"
How is it Bull.
Please point out where i have mentioned JD, Obsty and the like from last year. Your reading other peoples post and then using mine to have your say.
Its just like saying, the beer isnt as good as last year and the bar staff are very slow in serving. When the bar staff are new and so is the beer. How would that be ok.
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| Quote ="burleycougar"As I mentioned in an earlier post , I suspect the balance sheet could be quite healthy
with only paying lose match fees to the players thus far ....So ,maybe they could afford
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You may well be right, but there will be contracts to pay up and possible signing on fees and wages to new recruits etc. But, like I say you could well be correct and the club has some money in it's balance sheet.
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| Quote ="Diehard"Well done Lawkholme Len brilliant stats it’s good to know someone has such dedication I enjoyed reading them . However the facts are after a quarter of the season we are 2 points adrift at the bottom of the table with the worst points for and against. It hurts me to say in all honesty currently we are the worst [iperforming[/i team in the Championship.'"
Fair points, but have added the word [iperforming[/i
Quote There is no point in bickering with each other on this forum we need be honest and analyse why. It starts with the following simple questions.'"
That's fair enough, as long as you answer the questions fairly and impartially rather than trying to back up your point of view.
Have all the other clubs got a larger playing budget than Cougars….No
[iHow do you know that?
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Have other clubs got injuries to players in their squads….Yes
[iDepends on how key those players are to the team.[/i
Have all the other clubs got better players than Cougars….No
[iYou've been selective in the use of the word ALL. In my opinion the top 6 clubs have better squads than us. [/i
Having had a season in the Championship should our players be better prepared at this level than the promoted clubs….Yes
Should we be better than the four clubs that finished below us last season….Yes
[iWhy? Have they stood still? Have they just simply laid down and accepted that we should be better?[/i
Have other clubs got better DR players than us….Debatable
[iOn Sunday four of Yorks tries were scored by DR players and three of Hunslets.[/i
Are other clubs better organised than Cougars on the field …Yes
[iWe do OK until we start to rotate players. Whether this is down to players or change in tactics I don't know, but it must be addressed.[/i
Is Paul March a good leader on the field….No
[iHe did OK at York and Hunslet, as an outsider it looked like he led them well. If the performance of a coach or player changes then questions need answering - is it him or other circumstances?
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I'm not disagreeing with everything you've said, just adding perspective.
If you are going to solve a problem then you need to establish the REAL root cause(s) first.
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| Quote ="Dominance"You may well be right, but there will be contracts to pay up and possible signing on fees and wages to new recruits etc. But, like I say you could well be correct and the club has some money in it's balance sheet.'"
You could be right but it could also have used it to pay off it's debts (I would assume it still has them).
It would be nice to think we have a cash surplus but I can't think of many loosing RL clubs that have much.
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| Yes , would be interesting to find out.
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| Reading the Keighley News York have a massive injury crisis and only have 18 fit players. at the beginning of the season this game would have been a banker so its over to you PM there is NO excuse not to win this game.
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| Not sure losing pay is a good strategy for a business. If you dont have a good product your customers go elsewhere!
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| The point made was that the books in theory would look better having only paid out
loosing pay Not that it would be a good business strategy.
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| But the books wont look better if the income is not coming in!
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| I think the name of this string hits the nail on the head the club is a shambles from top to bottom with the exception of the under 20s. I have supported the club for over 10 years and in that time we have been through some hard times but I cannot remember a time when the lifeblood of our club it's fans have been treated in such a shabby manor by the board.
The club is totally leaderless and becoming a laughing stock though out the whole of the game. Our website is terrible...why does the club not give any team news or anything interesting. Our merchandising is non existent and the match day experience rubbish.
It sounds as if I am just knocking the club but I really care about it. The appointment of JD was a big step forward and he really took us forward but Paul March has taken us further back than I thought possible yet the board don't seem to care.
Am I being too critical of the board or do other fans agree with me?
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| Excellent post Cougar Lass I 100% agree however I don't blame the players they are giving everything but lacking leadership and organisation. That's down to the coach or should I say have we got one!!
Does anyone know who Paul March assistant was at York or Hunslet. Having seen every game this season it must have been this assistant who made these two clubs successful perhaps we should get him to us
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| Sorry I don't blame the players at all they are giving everything. They are playing without a leader on the field or any organisation. I used to criticise JD for playing when he only had one leg but he was a leader and a winner. If only he was still here.
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| That awkward moment when it looks like you have created two profiles on RFL fans and talk to yourself to put the boot in grind axe etc........
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| Was just thinking that myself Micky, oh dear !!!
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| Two profiles, with a female Name or word and Cougar in the user name. Created 14 minutes apart and verbally joined at the hip on each of their Virgin negative posts.
Considering how few females there are on here and the above coincidences I think Cougar Lass and Penny Cougar is a well practiced male poster.
Maybe I am suspicious of everybody
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| Must come clean we are not the same person but know each other and decided to join the forum to post our feelings. Is this a crime sorry if its not allowed.
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| The only crime is neither of you have posted a pic
Getting back on topic, we have now played Halifax, Batley and Fev away and Leigh at home. A few better ones on paper coming up and we need some points, quickly.
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| Quote ="pennycougar"Must come clean we are not the same person but know each other and decided to join the forum to post our feelings. Is this a crime sorry if its not allowed.'"
Yes course you did.
Two people who know each other would always create a profile to just talk to each other.
When in a hole stop digging.
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| Quote ="pennycougar"Must come clean we are not the same person but know each other and decided to join the forum to post our feelings. Is this a crime sorry if its not allowed.'"
Yes course you did.
Two people who know each other would always create a profile to just talk to each other.
When in a hole stop digging.
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| Quote ="pennycougar"Must come clean we are not the same person but know each other and decided to join the forum to post our feelings. Is this a crime sorry if its not allowed.'"
Hi penny. Welcome to the site. Hope you both continue posting in the future.
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