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| So he's looking at 1-4 match ban then.
Can't see him getting off it somehow.
But what was he supposed to do? Let Ratcliffe continue hitting him?
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| Having just read the other forum,what a set of whinging morons.
They have very short memories,and your spot on Mick.
York must be chocca with ivory towers.
Daley will be missed,especially by me as i think he is a match winner.
Anyhow,roll on warrington and as for the fancy dress guys,are you sure or was it just the booze
No bottle bar yesterday,why?
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| Oh Obe, there's no getting out of it now...
get yer best frock ready!
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| Quote ="Stealth Comic"So he's looking at 1-4 match ban then.
Can't see him getting off it somehow.
But what was he supposed to do? Let Ratcliffe continue hitting him?'"
Stealth Comic, whilst i aren't going to get into an argument with you and i do consider myself as a rational and honest person, i have watched the video many times and the incident starts with Williams pushing Ratcliffe in the back, Ratcliffe then turns and goes to shove Williams in the chest, Williams then punches Ratcliffe to the head and whilst Ratcliffe is going down he then punches him again, I can honestly tell you that Ratcliffe does not throw a punch and i can imagine that Williams will definately be found guilty tonight, and furthermore the police have reviewed the incident and legal proceedings have been initiated, if the police thought that this was in retaliation then i am sure that they wouldn't proceed with the case.
I do hope that this puts things into perspective, and we can leave the matter to the relevant authorities from now on.
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| Gordano,
If you still have footage of the incident put it on a video sharing site so we can all make our minds up about it.
As for the police being involved, i'm sure they have taken some action by now given Keighley Police station is 200 yards away from Cougar Park.
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| Quote ="Stealth Comic"Gordano,
If you still have footage of the incident put it on a video sharing site so we can all make our minds up about it.
As for the police being involved, i'm sure they have taken some action by now given Keighley Police station is 200 yards away from Cougar Park.'"
If you look on the york press web site it is on there already, as i have said earlier, i have no axe to grind with the lad it just sickens me that we have this type of thing in our game, with regards to the police, it was reported in Dewsbury where Danny lives and things can't progress until after the outcome of tonights disciplinary at Red Hall.
Barry Eaton as stated that it was Danny who was the aggressor, I understand he has to back his player, but after you see it you will understand why i say that Daley was the aggressor, the video i have has been broken down into 160 frames and clearly shows that Danny as the flat of his hands on Daley's chest when Daley is throwing the initial punch.
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| Cheers, I will have a look this evening. But I take it Ratcliffe definately wasn't cowardly attacked from behind like some less respectable York fans are saying?
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| Quote ="Stealth Comic"Cheers, I will have a look this evening. But I take it Ratcliffe definately wasn't cowardly attacked from behind like some less respectable York fans are saying?'"
No he wasn't but neither was he the aggressor as Mr Eaton as implied in the press.
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| Quote ="gordano"If you look on the york press web site it is on there already, as i have said earlier, i have no axe to grind with the lad it just sickens me that we have this type of thing in our game, with regards to the police, it was reported in Dewsbury where Danny lives and things can't progress until after the outcome of tonights disciplinary at Red Hall.
Barry Eaton as stated that it was Danny who was the aggressor, I understand he has to back his player, but after you see it you will understand why i say that Daley was the aggressor, the video i have has been broken down into 160 frames and clearly shows that Danny as the flat of his hands on Daley's chest when Daley is throwing the initial punch.'" Maybe words were exchanged before the shove,who knows what ,if anything was said.
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| Quote ="gordano"If you look on the york press web site it is on there already, as i have said earlier, i have no axe to grind with the lad it just sickens me that we have this type of thing in our game, with regards to the police, it was reported in Dewsbury where Danny lives and things can't progress until after the outcome of tonights disciplinary at Red Hall.
Barry Eaton as stated that it was Danny who was the aggressor, I understand he has to back his player, but after you see it you will understand why i say that Daley was the aggressor, the video i have has been broken down into 160 frames and clearly shows that Danny as the flat of his hands on Daley's chest when Daley is throwing the initial punch.'"
I don't quite agree that the police will have to wait for the outcome of the RFL disciplinary procedures before they can take any further action. [size=150If[/size the police are taking any action it is incumbent on the RFL to adjourn their enquiries until the criminal enquiry has taken it's course, otherwise the RFL enquiry and everything said during proceedings etc. becomes evidence and everyone at Red Hall becomes a potential witness. I'm sure that they won't want that. Or maybe they do, it wouldn't surprise me.
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| Quote ="gordano"If you look on the york press web site it is on there already, as i have said earlier, i have no axe to grind with the lad it just sickens me that we have this type of thing in our game, with regards to the police, it was reported in Dewsbury where Danny lives and things can't progress until after the outcome of tonights disciplinary at Red Hall.
Barry Eaton as stated that it was Danny who was the aggressor, I understand he has to back his player, but after you see it you will understand why i say that Daley was the aggressor, the video i have has been broken down into 160 frames and clearly shows that Danny as the flat of his hands on Daley's chest when Daley is throwing the initial punch.'"
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Ratcliffe can otherwise remember little of the incident and will study the match video today before deciding whether to take the matter to police.'"
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| If the police get involved with this then then they will have to get involved with an awful lot of players and sports.
The police have to be seen as treating everyone equally!
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| Its only because York are whingers am not condoning violence but as you rightly say when would it end, remember York are angels.
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| sorry but a 2 match ban and £50 is ridicolous!
if danny had broke williams nose and dislocated his jaw then im certain we would of been hit with a worse ban.
and i do hope the police get involved because what williams did was out of order, york supporters arnt moaning or whatever you seem to think, we're just showing our opionon, im sure you would if you was in our situation.
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| an excellent first post yorkgirl. jog on.!!!
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| Quote ="yorkgirl"sorry but a 2 match ban and £50 is ridicolous!
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Thats only your opinion, in the same way that it was the "opinion" of many York fans that Williams attacked from behind and broke Ratcliffes jaw - both of which have been shown to be untrue.
I suggest you go and read the RL report, all of it. The "reasons for decision" is key: (I'm not sure if I'm breaking the AUP here, but i've only put a short extract)
[i"The panel do feel the Ratcliffe made a run towards Williams and it may also be clear on the DVD that Ratcliffe struck his opponent first but we are sure from viewing the DVD that Daley struck Ratcliffe at least once in retaliation" [/i
There was also an offer from Barry to show another DVD with a different view, but the RL declined. There was also suggestion that some of Ratclffes injury was sustained in an earlier collision, but that could not be proved.
I don't like to see any player injured, but I would not condemn before I knew the facts.
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| Dreamer have you got a link to that report?
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What he said (or are you a she???)icon_lol.gif
Its interesting to see the difference between the initial report (CM's report)
and the actual decision after reviewing the evidence.
The key statements appear to be under "reasons for decision".
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What he said (or are you a she???)icon_lol.gif
Its interesting to see the difference between the initial report (CM's report)
and the actual decision after reviewing the evidence.
The key statements appear to be under "reasons for decision".
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| Quote ="Dreamer"What he said (or are you a she???)icon_lol.gif
Its interesting to see the difference between the initial report (CM's report)
and the actual decision after reviewing the evidence.
The key statements appear to be under "reasons for decision".'"
The long hair does confuse people
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| Just noticed on their forum someone just referred to Daley as Sugar Ray Williams.
Anyone else find this highly amusing and maybe it should be his nickname from now on?
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| right, I found this a bit hard because it probably isn't the right the right thing to do, but here are the York fans moaning about the incident involving Daley Williams but to be fair he did wrong and deserves his ban, however the lad ratcliffe will recover no doubt, poor chris brown, a local amateur lad playing rugby banged his head and has sadly passed away through playing the game he loved, this puts it in to perspective for me so please can we move on and stop this pettiness now, it's beginning to grate a bit.
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| Good point.
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