I saw on twitter Josh you had put something about there being enough members to push through an EGM with one super league chairman supporting a vote of no confidence.

Does anyone know what the EGM will actually mean? Presumably once the full fixtures are out the only route we can go down is a legal challenge.

I dont want this thread turning into a 'we should have won more games' etc. Im bored of hearing that, everyone knows we got relegated and its highly unlikely anything else is going to happen (although id dearly love to see a few Batley fans reaction if the points were re-re-re deducted). Currently some Batley fans are accusing Keighley of bringing the game into disrepute and that we should be kicked out. Interesting point coming from proven rule breakers who got lucky by default.

YOU SHOULD HAVE WON MORE GAMES

I would ignore anything a Batley fan says. The ones I have seen since they got their points back have
Been complete idiots to a man. (Except the poster above who has just about posted the funniest thing from a batley fan ever)

I used to really enjoy my visits to Batley that will have to be assesed next time where there as I dont think they as a club deserve my hard earned cash.

Ho ho ho.

Just one Batley fan posted that we don't all share the same view and staying up by default when we won our last two games one away to Donny and we hammered them never mentioned on this forum
We still don't know the full facts, was the points deduction right in the first place, I don't know , one fact we now definitely know is the RFL did know about the 5 clubs last year and repeatedly warned them but took no action
I think until the full facts if they ever are published we should make judgements
Really think a legal case against the rfl is not a great idea, I don't think you having the backing of the clubs you think you have
Good luck next season whichever league your in

Maybe if we'd played some ineligible Super League players we would have done

since it appears there's no punishment for doing so.

Although if we had done it I think we all know that the chances of having any punishment dished out to Keighley reversed by the RFL would have been nil. In fact they'd probably have doubled it if we'd had the cheek to appeal.

Seriously mate, you are reading far too much into it. There is no big vendetta against Keighley. At the time we got the points back, we were still favorites to go down. If you had beaten Fev in the last game, you wouldn't give two hoots about Batley, The RFL, ineligible players, points deductions or anything else. In fact, haven4eva has gone very quiet since they escaped the drop.

So, I say it once again, you should have won more games.

I have said it before and will say it again, this is not Cougars Vs Batley and if the boot was on the other foot I am sure Batley fans/officials would also be pursuing the RFL for answers. I have always said that I have nothing against Batley and in the main they amassed more points than us, but it's not as straightforward as that when rule breaches are brought into the mix. I don't support the Batley hate club by a minority of our fans and distance myself from their comments and views. Everyone has their own view, but I have to say on the other forum a selection of so called Batley fans have hardly covered themselves in glory.

It's all well and good mentioning the Donny game and fair play you achieved a good win against the odds and we were a forward pass away from getting the result against Fev. It was in our hands and we blew it, but there is some much more to this now and I think the club are spot on to pursue this. This isn't the first alarming decision by the RFL this season so there are unanswered questions. As for support for member clubs, if early indications are right I think we may have the support required to push for a EGM.

Maybe this we hate Batley, we hate Keighley thing needs to stop. We would be stronger together fighting each others corner. I cannot believe Batley officials and fans think all is rosy with the RFL and now is the time to make changes for the longevity of our game. If that means we have to fight our way out of C1 so be it, but I think there are bigger issues to consider and think those with tunnel vision may need to look at the bigger picture.

Good post dominance pretty much sums it up and yes your right I for one think RFL have not conducted themselves in this very well, hope the situation is resolved to everyone's benefit

I think the big issue is the transparency and fairness of the RFL justice system...not the actions of any club in particular.
Why was Paul March given an unprecedented ban when there was in fact evidence claiming his innocence. I don't think there should have been such a large ban in any case, Bobbie Goulding had a 5 match ban, Daryl Powell was fined, albeit all different cases of abuse of the referee but all with quite different punishments? My point is that the justice seems to be inconsistent and unpredictable. Naturally some of us Keighley fans think all these are now related because we have been significantly wronged in the past... I am not quite of that mindset, the RFL have helped us at times also, but it does make me think that there are some clubs that subconsciously or consciously the RFL treat more favourably than others... but without a clear transparent justice system how can that bias be identified and then nullified? The EGM must fix this lack of transparency to prove that there is no bias and that they can approach justice in a professional and consistent manner.
I agree wholeheartedly that all clubs should stick together and fight for transparent and consistent justice from the RFL.

I am not on about one Batley fan I am on about everyone I have encounted since we went down. Not many Batley fan has posted with any dignity. This goes for other message boards and other online sites.
This may not be a Keighley v Batley issue but for me it does not change way I have seen Batley fans act in all this.

Sour taste left from my side of things. I think the fact we have not heard the reason why it was overturned several weeks on shows something is wrong!!!!! The RFL are a joke but we already knew that.

Does that include me then ?
Take a look at your own message board, some cougar fans including your official/unofficial club poster have had some "brain farts"
Let's just stop now and look forward to hopefully the RFL openly discussing the difficult situation ahead

I cannot believe this farce is continuing still.

It really is simple. Keighley just were not good enough and that is down to the players and coaches , no one else.

That might be the case 'Leaguefan' but what about 'Playing according to the Rules'?

You don't care about Rules, or do you?

That's the point.

So why have any Rules at all if they can be broken with impunity?

Let's forget about Rules and let anything go!

I don't think anyone has denied that Keighley could have and should have done more in some games to come away with more points. I think a lot of people are still disgusted by the lack of reasoning from the RFL... and if the clubs had been fined instead of a points deduction then at least the clubs would have been punished for breaching rules and the league table would be identical as it is now. However the clubs have not been punished at all and the RFL appear to be lacking any justification for this!
This EGM has to agree and begin fixing some significant issues in the RFL, the RFL is the farce, not the fact that Keighley and Sheffield are pursuing whatever route it can to get the underlying issues looked at.

Why have Keighley refused to meet the RFL when invited? Why did Keighley refuse to discuss the matter with the RFL AND other clubs at a club forum last week.

Either get on with it or forget it. Disrupting the launch of the new structure will not make you many friends. Don't remember Widnes launching legal action when an extra relegation place was added mid season when they made way for catalan.

Yes you have been unfortunate, but lets get on with it. Still confused also why you are signing players when you seem to be unsure what league you are playing in.

The only question who has told you this?

The rugby papers this morning

Last I heard is the club was trying to get answers but the RFL would not reply.

Would be interested to know where this info has come from as I doubt we would have refused to meet them?

Not got the rugby papers, can we see the link ?

I can't find the story on the web to post a link but I have got a copy of today's League Express. Gareth Walker's article is titled 'Cougars claim EGM support' and it explains that we now have the support of enough clubs to force an EGM. Gary Fawcett also explains a bit about what the RFL's response has been. League Express approached the RFL for a statement and they've basically said that they've co-operated fully with the legal process instigated by the Cougars and that, prior to us seeking legal redress, they offered to meet the club to discuss the issues but that Gary declined the offer. They also say that we had the opportunity to raise any concerns and debate potential outcomes with the RFL and the other Championship and Championship 1 clubs at the clubs' forum on 8th October. Gary is said to have declined this opportunity and 'there was no suggestion from the other clubs of any support for this latest course of action by the Cougars'. The RFL is continuing to show due diligence etc etc.

If I recall correctly the RFL did offer a meeting but only on the understanding that they had no intention of doing anything to rectify the situation which is entirely of their own making. Why on earth would Gary / the Cougars attend such a meeting?

www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php ... ds/page-11 You are quite right CDC, there would have been nothing but an uunsympathetic ear or two and a brew (maybe) Was the EGM on the agenda at the meeting in Halifax? -probably not We're cougars able/allowed to add this to the agenda? - possibly This is a legal challenge and the EGM is a logical way of avoiding dragging the game through the courts, would this meeting in Halifax have been an appropriate way of raising the issue of calling the EGM? - probably not, I wouldn't as this is a completely separate matter to anything else being discussed in RL at this time and I wouldn't want to lower the profile by tackling this issue without a separate voting system to arrange the EGM

www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php ... ds/page-11 You are quite right CDC, there would have been nothing but an uunsympathetic ear or two and a brew (maybe) Was the EGM on the agenda at the meeting in Halifax? -probably not We're cougars able/allowed to add this to the agenda? - possibly This is a legal challenge and the EGM is a logical way of avoiding dragging the game through the courts, would this meeting in Halifax have been an appropriate way of raising the issue of calling the EGM? - probably not, I wouldn't as this is a completely separate matter to anything else being discussed in RL at this time and I wouldn't want to lower the profile by tackling this issue without a separate voting system to arrange the EGM

Keighley in the process of legal action.
Maybe Keighley legal team advised them not to go.

Page 2 of League Express. RFL offered to meet before legal redress was followed Fawcett refused. He again refused to discuss/debate the issues at the Champ and Champ 1 club forum on the 8th. It also suggests there was no indication of support for an EGM either.

I have heard that there are enough clubs to call an EGM including a superleague club who are calling for a vote of no confidence in the rfl.

I do not know details, however if the EGM wasn't to progress then the matter will go to court with a strong case, again, I do not know the details of this