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| This picture made me chuckle[urlhttp://www.skysports.com/gallery/detail/0,20501,12738_5346220,00.html#photo=23[/url
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| Quote ="TFC"I'll be on the Newky Brown tonight, heard it goes down quite well
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Don't you mean Newcastle Down?
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| Quote ="Billy Banter"Looked like management by committee - Shearer, Dowie and Hughton. Too many cooks?'"
When they kept sacking managers did any coaches actually leave with them?
Anyway, 500 fans or 50,000 fans is irrelevant, as is whether you are a "big" or "small" club it is all about how a club is managed and Newcastle have been mis-managed badly, on and off the field.
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| Quote ="espanyolswan"Mike Ashley???'"
with no relegation clauses, possibly.
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| Quote ="Billy Banter"Charles Insomnia has the last laugh.
Sorry mate. See you in the Championship.'"
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| Quote ="WANDERER"They may have not been 'entertainers' if Allardyce had stayed but they'd still be in the top flight - ask the Blackburn supporters which they'd prefer.'"
Best decision John Williams has made in years getting rid of Ince and bringing in Allardyce.Now with the money we should get for RSC he can start to shape the team how he wants it.Great send off for Tugay today from the crowd,he'll go down as a Rovers legend.
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| Quote ="The Joker®"So who's going to be there at the start of the Championship Season?...
Newcastle: Harper, Coloccini, Steven Taylor, Edgar, Duff, Guthrie, Nolan (Owen 66), Butt, Lovenkrands (Jose Enrique 57), Viduka (Ameobi 75), Martins.
Subs Not Used: Krul, Smith, Gutierrez, Ryan Taylor.'"
Well Nolan better not think he's coming back to the Reebok.
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| Quote ="flipper"dunno about that, Allardyce must be lolling like mad, and double checking his bank balance.'"
They wanted a more exciting, unpredictable style of football that would return them to the place where they belong, and they got it.
What's the problem?
What they need is some big geordie name from the past to come in and act as a massianic figurehead for the neecastle masses.
Jimmy Nail?
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Shearer saying the previous managers weren't good enough! cheeky ....
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Just watched Shearer's interview on SSN.
Don't think that Shearer said a word wrong TBH. He didn't say that the previous managers weren't good enough, he said that the players weren't good enough, he wasn't good enough, Ashley wasn't good enough, and included Kinnear and Keegan in with that. One name he didn't mention was Sam Allardyce, for obvious reasons.
Quote ="FireWire"What an anti climax survival Sunday was. '"
And I'm thankful for that. I dreaded Newcastle managing to nick a draw and somehow managing to find themselves saved.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Just watched Shearer's interview on SSN.
Don't think that Shearer said a word wrong TBH. He didn't say that the previous managers weren't good enough, he said that the players weren't good enough, he wasn't good enough, Ashley wasn't good enough, and included Kinnear and Keegan in with that. One name he didn't mention was Sam Allardyce, for obvious reasons.
And I'm thankful for that. I dreaded Newcastle managing to nick a draw and somehow managing to find themselves saved.'"
So he did say previous managers weren't good enough
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"icon_rolleyes.gif
The initial quote was that Shearer said that previous managers weren't good enough, inferring that it was purely the fault of past managers and it wasn't his fault.
That wasn't what Shearer said in any way.'"
In fairness the team he took over was hardly challenging for the title were they????
I listened to the interview myself and I'm pretty sure he said
'I wasn't good enough, the team weren't good enough, past managers weren't good enough and the owners have made mistakes'
A fair and honest assessment in my book. I don't think he was trying to blame anybody else at all. The whole club that is Newcastle Utd is just a big fooking mess!
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Just watched Shearer's interview on SSN.
Don't think that Shearer said a word wrong TBH. He didn't say that the previous managers weren't good enough, he said that the players weren't good enough, he wasn't good enough, Ashley wasn't good enough, and included Kinnear and Keegan in with that. One name he didn't mention was Sam Allardyce, for obvious reasons.'"
That's exactly as I saw it too. I have to say that I never liked Shearer as a player for many, many reasons. However, in the last few weeks Shearer the manager has actually grown on me. His honesty in the last few weeks has been a refreshing change & while he's clearly never looked up to the job it's been difficult not to admire his candid assesments of his team's "performances" & the fact that he had the balls to deal with Barton in a way that his previous managers have seemed incapable.
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| Quote ="Buffalo"To be fair to him, I didn't see any kid with Downs on the pitch at Hull, I saw a short clip of a load of morons acting like morons.'"
imagine the frothing at the mouth on here if it had been leeds fans invading the pitch.
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| I wonder if our chairman is 'entertaining' the idea of us being relegated now, deluded, ignorant prick.
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| I'm not a Shearer fan one bit, but I thought his interview was great, really. He's right, you've got to strip that club & start again. The playing staff, if you think that lot will get you back up, think again, they wouldn't have a prayer. Newcastle need to get rid, get what money they can they sign players who'll get them out of that division.
You can see some obvious exits, Bassong will now go to Arsenal, Barton to Bolton, maybe Nolan to Blackburn. Others they'll get money for probably Martins, Jonas, Taylor, Enrique. You'd imagine Harper will stay, maybe Butt, Ameobi, not many though.
It's going to need some canny movement in transfer market, a few favours & probably a bit of luck, but they will attract players, still. He just needs to look past this 'Premiership Quality' thing that people get hung up on, get players who'll get you out of that division.
If I was Shearer I'd be trying to bring the likes of Beckford, David Healy, maybe Frazier Campbell on a years loan or that Gibson. Get some width, Jobi McAnuff or a couple of them Arsenal kids, Merida or Jack Wilshire etc.
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When the news filtered through they'd gone down I did a little sex wee.
They deserve it. The fans forced out allardyce and if he'd been in charge none of this would have happened.
The fans had a huge reaction to keegan leaving forcing ahsley to try and sell and leaving the club to rot in limbo for even longer.
This was an ego trip from shearer. He had so many chances in the past to tajke over but did it now.
Big contracts and no relegation clauses
Hopefully they'll have some financial trouble.
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| Quote ="JWP"You can see some obvious exits, Bassong will now go to Arsenal, Barton to Bolton, maybe Nolan to Blackburn. '"
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| Quote ="JWP"You can see some obvious exits, Bassong will now go to Arsenal, Barton to Bolton, maybe Nolan to Blackburn.'"
I would honestly be surprised if Allardyce was interested now.
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| Quote ="WANDERER"I would honestly be surprised if Allardyce was interested now.'"
I think'll be relative to who's available at what cost, if you get me. If Big Sam gets the Roque money to reinvest, or some of it, knowing him, he'll want to bring in 3 or 4 folk with it. Clubs will know Newcastles predicament now, and will take advantage of it. Problem Newcastle have is that clubs will offer less, fee wise, and kinda go with an argumant of 'we're doing you a favour getting his £50k+ off your wage bill.'
If he could get Nolan for say £2/£2.5m, I think he'd be interested, replace Tugay.
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| The problem with the squad was that there was no balance, no creativity and very few players applied any urgency to the cause.
Too many of them seemed happy to just collect their wages and put in below par performances, one after another.
Beye, Duff, Bassong, Guthrie and Steven Taylor are the 4 that can probably put their hands up and say, well at least i tried or played like they wanted to avoid relegation to The Championship.
Too many of the players have had the wrong attitude, and they simply are not good enough.
We had so many second chances, Stoke getting a win at Hull, then us beating Middlesborough, then Man Utd winning against Hull yesterday, but we couldn't take advantage of when other teams' results were helping us out. We don't deserve to stay up.
This season has been an absolute joke, i don't really care too much of the views of the bitter Man Utd fans and other fans that have an agenda of hatred towards Newcastle, especially those who have only been supporting Man Utd since 1999. It must be a hard life as a football fan to support one of the big 4. Players like Given, N'Zogbia and Milner leaving and replacing them with Lovenkrands, Nolan and Ryan Taylor, isn't going to strengthen a team. I remember saying it at the time, and i said in December that we would get relegated.
Not really sure how people can pinpoint blame at Alan Shearer really, he had 8 games to work with players who the majority, don't seem bothered, and secondly, aren't good enough. He will have wanted to win more games in his 8 games in charge, however, apart from the fans who dislike him on a personal note, probably for turning down Man Utd twice during his career, i don't really see how he can be criticised.
It will be interesting to see who stays at the club, both players and managers.
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| Wrong thread Gaz.
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