But you are still ignoring the fact that there are plenty of chelsea players who do the same every match. Ballack and Cole are terrible referee baiters and there are plenty more.

The thing with Ronaldo was that their was usually at least some contact when he went down. Yes he went down easily but I cant think of a specific incident when he went down without any sort of contact?

I'm not ignoring the fact.

I accept we have plenty of players who give the referees stick.

I don't care about it.

WTF are you moaning about it for then?

Have a look on youtube. There are loads of examples. Put 'Christiano Ronaldo Diving Manual' into the search engine.

Against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. Frank Lampard was about a foot away from him right next to the touchline. Ronaldo blatantly dived, the ref gave the free kick, Lampard pi55ed himself laughing because he couldn't believe the ref had bought it.

Cristiano Ronaldo Dive Vs Chelsea (LOOK AT LAMPARD) on a website no one knows the name of.

I suppose its another issue you don't care about when it comes to Chelsea? Drogba and Joe Cole?

I will when I'm not at work

Champions League Final 2009 look at your entire team when Drogba gets sent off(when Terry spits on tevez) Then look at John Terry take his penalty

I dont believe you. Not the diving bit, the bit about Lampard laughing when he didn't get a decision

Cannot agree at all. Without Rooney, you would have had no out-ball at all. It was because of Rooney that you didn't spend most of the game camped within 30 metres of your goal.

Should we not get through in Europe, then yes, we won't have any money to spend.

I've just watched it, and Lampard can be forgiven on this occasion.

Not really. I've made this point many times before.

If you take Ronaldo, for example. He may have dived 20 times. But he'll have been fouled 200 times without getting a free kick in the same time as those 20 dives happened. English football supporters regard diving as the worst type of cheating, but kicking a player in the air is fine by them. I don't agree with that, I think it's retarded.

I think that often a tackler will impede an opponent just enough to cause him to lose possession, but not enough to actually bring him down. Many refs won't give a free kick unless a player goes down. That forces a player to go down just to win a free kick that they should've got anyway.

IMO the biggest reason that players shouldn't dive is because if you're caught diving, you'll end up paying for it in future. You might win a penalty in one game, but you'll have 5 blatant pens not given after that when the refs see what you've done.

What's that got to do with Ronaldo diving, idiot?

Have I missed something? This is a joke, right?

I can see where you coming from here, the only problem with giving a freekick because a player has had to avoid contact is that it is too subjective IMO.


Loads of footballers and fans are generally thick and dont actually know what a foul is anyway. When I used to ref all I would ever get when I gave a freekick was "I was going for the ball". Well yes but you didn't get it did you nob!

I nearly got it into a fight with an opposition player because his team mate fouled one our players, the ref said "I know you were going for the ball but you fouled the player" so his mate started screaming at the ref "You've just said he went for the ball!!! How can it be a foul?!!!" When I pointed out he didn't get the ball and made contact with my team mate he seemed to think this translated to me saying I'd just shagged his mum.

Had you?

It has something to do with players reactions which is what the inital discussion was about you thick ****.

Well yeah but she was crap so not worth bragging about.

Evidence please.

And here was me thinking Ref's knew naff all about football.

Is LGJM a referee by any chance?

Chelsea didnt reach the champions league final in 2009.

Mistake, what a waste of a post.

You seem to be good at that.