I'd take Favre.



Rodgers tries but he can't do it alone, the rest of the team don't help him. Plus he is a young QB trying to take over from the best QB ever, with an extremely young team around him.



Not that many that i remember. A large part was the play of the team. Like i said. In the last year with Brett, Grant was excellent (200+ yards in the play-offs vs Seattle as an example) then he held out from camp for a new contract which he got, then he got injured so was pretty ineffective/injured until week 10-11. Possibly a change on our O-Line but nothing massive. Likewise our defence was terrible, the main reason we changed to the 3-4 and got a new DC.



I don't agree. People might acknowledge us because we are owned by the public but our players never get recognition. Kampman for example has an excellent record of sacks in the last few years, (he is in the top 5 with Pepper, Ware, Merriman) but never gets mentioned as elite.

Rodgers, like i've said, people ignore as top 5 even though he is consistently good enough.

Woodson and Harris are potentially the best DB tandem in the league. This is all shown by the fact we rarely get players in the pro-bowl. In our 13-3 year we had 3 i think and 1 or 2 were back-ups.

We have greater depth at reciever than New England. Simply this year though we don't have the time to give them the ball.




I'd disagree. He has done it consistently. Both this year and last year he has been consistently in the top 5 QB's. We've had difficulties in other areas which prevent us from making the play-offs. Like our O-Line this year, he has been sacked 37 times and knocked down plently more and is running all the time. He has still been excellent. With a consistent line he'd be better and possibly we'd be play-off calibre. That doesn't detract from how good Rodgers is.

Likewise Cutler doesn't have a winning record. I'm sure i read McNabb is 1-8-1 in the last few years in games decided by 7 points or less. Romo bottles it in December/January also.

Three QB's many would consider elite.



Fair enough. For me he is better than E. Manning (and possibly Rivers). Manning has the ring and is a good game manager but Rodgers is a better player.

Honestly i'd go.

1. Brees
2. P. Manning
3. Brady
4. Roethlisberger
5. Rodgers
6. Rivers
7. E. Manning
8. Schaub
9. Cutler
10. Romo

I'm not saying Rodgers is the best QB in the league. He has the potential to be, but my point is people underestimate how good he actually is because of the team he plays, being small market and the fact that we don't get many games on TV.

Hopefully he can show how good he is tomorrow.

Brees as top QB in the league?!?!



Manning closely followed by Brady for the top 2 and it's not even close. I might even go as far as putting Roethlisberger ahead of Brees. I'd probably rate Rivers in my personal top 5 as well.

No way Brees is the best QB in the league by a distance hes special that lad got everything the stats he has put up for the last 2 year are unreal he will get a ring THIS year before you bring that argument in lol

Tauscher is definately out for us. Thankfully Allen "Can't Block" Babre has been dropped and TJ Lang is going to shift over to RT. 10X better than Babre.

Kampman is also out injured. Brad Jones will make his first career start.

Looking forward to watching Your game later followed by the Pats and Indy, not too fussed about the early game mind as Im not too sure what to expect apart from a defensive battle perhaps?

Who is the first game?

The Steelers and Bungals

My Bungals just swept the Steelers



Thanks for coming..

Decent first half.

Rodgers played very well despite our O-line and penalty issues.

Defence has been excellent.

Gotta hand it to your, your D has been excellent. As usual, we have no answers once someone stops us dictating.

Why is Jonathan Steward awesome everytime I bench him and crap everytime I play him!

Didn't you say:



When i suggested we could win by 3. Obviously i was to conservative.

Rodgers was excellent and yet again showed that he is equally as good as the best in the league.

Woodson was phenomenal, Matthews played very well and we got to Romo all day. Teams have been doing that to Rodgers all year and he's performed. Romo and the whole offence were held in check all game.

Excellent all around performance. Shame they scored when they didn't deserve to though.

I cant believe what I saw Belicheck do last night first of all giving Indy a way back into the game then basically giving them the ball on our 29 yard line



We should have won that game by a mile and took our foot of the pedal too early. Manning is a great QB but we made him look even better by playing a poor 4th quarter, the CBs were terrible at the end of the game and instead of punting the ball away we went for it on 4th down on our own 29 with 2.00 left on the clock for Manning

. It was a definate first down but a bad spot of the ball by the officials but because we wasted 2 timeouts a few seconds earlier we couldnt challenge it and it was apparently outside the last 2 minutes even though after the play there was 1.57 left and the then put 3 seconds on the clock what a joke

I didn't see the game but i'd be annoyed if i was a defensive player. Obviously Bellicheat doesn't trust his defence enough to stop Peyton.

Thats the thing though I would have punted but we got the first down IMO and the ball was spotted incorrectly it was clear to see but because we wasted 2 Timeouts we couldnt challenge it

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It was weird Belicheck didnt seem too bothered after it happened I think it took some balls to go for it but the fact we didnt leave a timeout made it a very strange desicion especially as before the 4th quarter we had stopped Manning several times, They had to punt the ball 5 times in the first quarter and the most times they had punted since 1992 or 1996 (i forget)!!!!

Gotta say aswell Conroy your fantasy team is ace even with a combined 4 players only scoring 9 points the amount of points you have racked up is amazing and you have Rice who will bag at least 15 points



Every player is excellent I wish I had a few less injurys and I may have had a few more wins

Thanks!



MoJo and Rice are awesome and save me some weeks. I've still got LT and Moreno on the bench also.

WR is solid. I had Evans and Royal but released them and got Rice and Sims-Walker. Both are number one recievers now so i've got abit lucky there. Witten has been terrible.

Ray Rice was drafted by me in round 13 or 14. My best draft pick by far.

I'm out of the running in the fantasy thing bar miracles now. Need to win 4 on the bounce to have any chance and that ain't going to happen with Westbrook banged up again, Bolding just getting back and Daniels done for the year. Thought i had a genuine shot this year but my FA pickups haven't been as good as last year, just not my turn to get lucky!

It's late picks like Rice that tend to make the difference in fantasy i've noticed. Last year i took a punt on Chris Johnson in round 12 i think and he came off in a big way. MJD is just a hero, had him as well last year and he always seem to find the endzone

So how does it work when the play-offs start, Do all the players from the teams not making it become free agents for the play-off teams to choose from?

I reckon if Anthony Gonzalez gets fit he will do well in the latter stages of the season and I would have done a lot better had he not been crocked as I have only really had 1 #1 wideout all year until Austin started to play more.

Didnt he take a kneel down yesterday at the 1 yard line to run the clock down a bit (just like Westbrook did the other year), I bet Conroy was gutted

No.

Welker? bobbled it, only regained control when the defender shoved him back behind the first down marker.

Actually going for it in the first place though, if it were the other way around, and the Patriots needed a touchdown, I'd rather leave Brady 70-80 yards to get in two minutes with one timeout, than less than 30.

Faulk. He did initially bobble it but gain control of it just before the defender pushed him. It should have been about 1 yard further than where it was place, which would have been very close to a 1st down.