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| changa wrote: italian,spanish,aussie's dominate motogp Quote ="Dead Man Walking"The last Aussie to dominate MotoGP was Mick Doohan and not a one since. It'll be Lorenzo after Rossi retires....maybe Pedrosa as well. Then there are the others in the lower classes that will come through.'" last 32 years even the yanks had winners
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Bloody hell.
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Kallio will replace him on the factory bike for those three rounds. Michel Fabrizio will take Kallio's place this weekend at Pramac Ducati.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"[url=http://www.carolenash.com/insidebikes/bike-news/stoner-to-miss-next-three-rounds.htm#more-4016Confirmed.[/url
Stoner misses Brno, Indy and Misano, returning in Estoril in October.
Kallio will replace him on the factory bike for those three rounds. Michel Fabrizio will take Kallio's place this weekend at Pramac Ducati.'"
Oh dear. I wonder if this is the start of the end for him. There are plenty of riders out there who seem fine but why fatigue has got to Stoner at his age is a shame.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"[url=http://www.carolenash.com/insidebikes/bike-news/stoner-to-miss-next-three-rounds.htm#more-4016Confirmed.[/url
Stoner misses Brno, Indy and Misano, returning in Estoril in October.
Kallio will replace him on the factory bike for those three rounds. Michel Fabrizio will take Kallio's place this weekend at Pramac Ducati.'"
I'll be interested to see how Kallio does, I think he's got a podium in him on a factory bike.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Nicky Hayden in 2006 I believe and Kevin Schwantz too. The only other US rider who could come through, that I know of, is Ben Spies who is, at the moment, in World Superbikes.'"
A more talented rider than Doohan IMO, and he'd just started to get his consistency together when he won the title. Doohan then decides to run him over at Donington in his title-defence season and he never really recovers, whilst Doohan goes on to 5 titles in a row with a dominant bike and gets accolades aplenty. Sport's just not fair at times.
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| Surprised no comments about the weekend yet.
So, title race all sorted then?
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Nicky Hayden in 2006 I believe and Kevin Schwantz too. The only other US rider who could come through, that I know of, is Ben Spies who is, at the moment, in World Superbikes.'" kenny roberts jnr won the title on the 500cc gp bike in 2001 i beleive
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| Quote ="changa"kenny roberts jnr
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| [url=http://www.carolenash.com/insidebikes/bike-news/lorenzo-signs-yamaha-deal.htm#more-4073Jorge Lorenzo signs one-year deal with Yamaha.[/url
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"[url=http://www.carolenash.com/insidebikes/bike-news/lorenzo-signs-yamaha-deal.htm#more-4073Jorge Lorenzo signs one-year deal with Yamaha.[/url
James Toseland's future will now depend on how Ben Spies does in WSB.'"
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Goodbye Toseland I fear.'"
If Spies does decide to move up, it could actually work well for Toseland.
Tech 3 don't want, nor can they afford, two Americans. Spies would be the preferred option for Yamaha over Edwards, given that they want to keep Spies within the company for a factory ride in a year or two (remember that rookies can't sign with factory teams any more).
Edwards will only stay if he can be bothered. He's earned his money and if he woke up tomorrow and felt like quitting, he would do. It took a pretty hefty salary offer to keep him riding this year. Toseland is by far the cheaper option financially and Edwards doesn't bring in any sponsors that Spies wouldn't or couldn't.
The plot thickens when there are rumblings that Dorna could offer Tech 3 a kick-back to keep JT, given that they see a British rider as vital to working their way into the UK market. Whether that part works in practice is doubtful, but it's an interesting twist.
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| The commentators speculated at the last race that Vermeulen is rumoured to have approached Tech 3 too. Losing his ride, so allegedly offered to race for Tech 3 for free. So if the cost is the main factor, it could still be curtains for Toseland if it would outweigh any kick-back.
TBH, he doesn't deserve a new deal on this year's performance. If it wasn't for the fact he's the only Brit in the field nobody would be remotely interested.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Nicky Hayden in 2006 I believe and Kevin Schwantz too. The only other US rider who could come through, that I know of, is Ben Spies who is, at the moment, in World Superbikes.'" K.R. junior
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"The commentators speculated at the last race that Vermeulen is rumoured to have approached Tech 3 too. Losing his ride, so allegedly offered to race for Tech 3 for free. So if the cost is the main factor, it could still be curtains for Toseland if it would outweigh any kick-back.
TBH, he doesn't deserve a new deal on this year's performance. If it wasn't for the fact he's the only Brit in the field nobody would be remotely interested.'"
I can't see what Vermeulen think's he's gaining with that, unless it's just a desperate plea for any form of MotoGP contract to attract / appease sponsors.
He's not a championship caliber rider, he's not going to become one on a satellite Yamaha and he's not that commercially attractive. It does seem to strange move on his part.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"He didn't do very good unfortunately.'" he won the 500gp championship agaist rossi
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| Quote ="changa"he won the 500gp championship agaist rossi
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| changa wrote: kenny roberts jnr won the title on the 500cc gp bike in 2001 i beleive Quote ="Dead Man Walking"No he didn't. He's nowhere as good as his Dad was.'" so he did now . make up your crazy mind pom
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According to my mole, Ducati are concerned that Stoner has effectively lost "interest" (if that's the right word) in racing. His fitness is still a concern and his head clearly isn't in the right place.
A couple of weeks ago, the team issued a very defiant press statement insisting that he would be returning at Estoril in a very "move along, nothing to see here" kind of way which, if anything, fanned the flames at bit. I'd expect Ducati to stand by him as much as they can but at the same time, they've got a finite amount of patience.
When you think of the riders they've approached as well, Lorenzo (a reported €13m contract) and Pedrosa - those are riders that few teams can afford to have as their "second" rider. Hayden will be on a decent, if not Rossi-esque amount but could any team in the paddock budget for Casey Stoner and a 'second' rider earning €13m? I doubt it.
Anyhoo, in other news, Ben Spies has signed a two-year contract with Yamaha that will see him race WSB in 2010 and for Tech 3 Yamaha in 2011. For my money, I'd expect that to mean that Tech 3 will run with Edwards + A.N Other for next season (whether A.N Other is Toseland remains to be seen, but I'm a betting man ). In 2011, I'd expect Edwards to hang up his helmet with Spies taking the "American" seat at Tech 3.
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