It's awful when cloggers like the players you mention stop you from seeing artists like Darren Fletcher play.

Yes, and Claude Makeklele.

Best player on the field on Sunday.

Ahead of Rooney?

Yes!! imo Rooney was shocking in the first half only slightly better than Giggs but improved in the second half. Fletcher, Anderson and Carrick bossed the midfield pretty much all game and dominated Deco and Essien, i didn't even notice Lampard for most of the game.

People keep saying we're missing Ronaldo and i'd tend to agree on the attacking front but there is no way on this planet he could have put in the type of disiplined performance in attack and defence that Valencia put in on sunday Cashly would have had free reign on that side if Ronaldo had still been there.

Again Obertan looked pretty handy when he came off the bench and i'd like to see a bit more of him in games instead of the 10 minute cameos of the last few weeks but i guess he's still getting back to full fitness.

Really put in a stint as an assistant ref as well. Was there a decision made by the ref that he didn't have a go about?

If there was i'm sure Ballack more than made up for it

What a load of utter utter p!sh.

Imagine it is 0-0 in the last minute of the World Cup Final. Messi runs into the box, Ferdinand slides in but Messi* takes a pathetic swan dive without being touched. Penalty awarded. Scored. 1-0 Argentina.

Cheating Argie barsteward or simply avoiding injury?

We all know the answer to that and it simply shows your point to be more pathetic than it originally was.

* Messi was just an example. He is not a diver like plenty of the idiots that are tarnishing the Premiership at the moment.

[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/nov/10/robert-enke-germany-diedRobert Enke dies - thought to have commited suicide[/url

Just heard it on Catalan tv. They had a minutes silence at the Camp Nou for him.

[iOn 10 November 2009 Enke died in a train incident in Neustadt am Rübenberge.[12 German website Morgenpost Online have quoted a spokesperson from the Hannover police as saying: "Enke has thrown himself under a train at Neustadt am Rübenberge." The death is, however, unconfirmed as a suicide.[/i

[url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/mancity/6532491/Manchester-City-supporters-demand-investigation-into-Jonny-Evans-challenge.htmlDivs or Bitters , you choose[/url


was interested to see a certain high profile signing described as a £40m Paul Dickov over the weekend.

Which England international said this not too long ago?

[i“I don’t think there’s anything worse than a player diving when no one’s been anywhere near him. It does ruin the game.

If I saw a team-mate doing it, I would definitely have a word.”[/i

Answers on a postcard.

Another reason to laugh at football.

Steven 'I never ever dive, honest' Gerrard?

Is there a Bitter Divs option?

the players have to be refs and Assistants cause the real refs and assistants dont do the job right so someone has to.

A monkey could do a better job than most of the Officials at all levels.

I don't like the hassling of referees and I'd bring in rugby league style discipline in football, but let's not start singling out players when there are the majority of players in whole teams doing it. Man United Chelsea Liverpool, they're all up to it and it needs to stop. Ballack is another bad one I am sure you can agree as is Mascherano. The referee wont change his mind once he has made a decision so shut it and get on with it.

Try telling that to the bluenoses, they still remain adamant Hibbert wouldn't have gone

Newsnight last night: Fraser Digby Jones: Do you think when John Terry captains a team that constantly loses and picks up £1m a week, that's acceptable? Irish guy: John Terry doesn't captain a team that loses every week, Steven Gerrard does. www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... 0_11_2009/ 39m44s in.

Newsnight last night: Fraser Digby Jones: Do you think when John Terry captains a team that constantly loses and picks up £1m a week, that's acceptable? Irish guy: John Terry doesn't captain a team that loses every week, Steven Gerrard does. www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... 0_11_2009/ 39m44s in.

I think Ryan Giggs and your bench fully deserve an assist for Ivanovich's yellow card on Sunday. (Even though Ivanovich won the ball, he still deserved the yellow IMO.)

It's not about changing a refs decision. It's about influencing the decision a ref's not sure about. And even more importantly, it's about influencing the refs future decisions.

Bingo la!

Our takeover could be close to going through...

Don't know if anyone saw [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/the-worst-divers-in-football-1778070.htmlthis[/url yesterday, but how is it even possible that Ronaldo wasn't top of the list (or even in the list)?

www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 18622.html In Rafa we trust.

www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 18622.html In Rafa we trust.

Please say it's true!!!


Can't see it though as Benitez has no money to spend. Isn't that right Liverpool fans?