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| Think Arsenal have done really well and could now really challenge Liverpool for the fourth place championship.
Gervinho, Park, Santos, Mertesacker, Arteta and Benayoun for about the price of Andy Carroll I think.
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| I'm a bit mixed on our activity this summer. We seem stronger for it, but I'm unsure if we've really got value for money. The true test will be this season, if we finish 4th, then it's well spent, if we don't, questions will be asked. Still think we should have kept Raul, he's a good player who offers versatility and strong technical ability. Henderson and Adam will eventually struggle for periods, having him here as an assurance - add Gerrard's sketchy fitness into the equation - would have made us stronger than £12m sitting in the bank, but ah well. A lot of money off the wage bill this summer, which is definitely good news.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Think Arsenal have done really well and could now really challenge Liverpool for the fourth place championship.
Gervinho, Park, Santos, Mertesacker, Arteta and Benayoun for about the price of Andy Carroll I think.'"
Much better looking squad, a lot more solid and much improved. Arteta will be a good signing for them, he's obviously not Fabregas but he's a good player, he's a game changer and can pick out a pass. He'll look much better in their midfield than ours, Evertonian's will look to his post injury form and the injuries he's picked up but he's playing in a midfield which has a lot less ability than Arsenal have.
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| Quote ="Roddy B"I'm a bit mixed on our activity this summer. We seem stronger for it, but I'm unsure if we've really got value for money. The true test will be this season, if we finish 4th, then it's well spent, if we don't, questions will be asked. Still think we should have kept Raul, he's a good player who offers versatility and strong technical ability. Henderson and Adam will eventually struggle for periods, having him here as an assurance - add Gerrard's sketchy fitness into the equation - would have made us stronger than £12m sitting in the bank, but ah well. A lot of money off the wage bill this summer, which is definitely good news.'"
I don't think it's all that bad losing Meireles, he's been sketchy form wise hasn't he? his best days seemed to be in the games from the derby onwards when he had his scoring run and didn't seem too bad. I've always thought he seemed a solid player who'd do a good job when needed but you were over ran with midfielders and it isn't a bad fee, had it come earlier in the day you might have been able to do something with it. A good mate of mine is a season ticket holder and he's said for a while he seemed an average sort, good squad player type. He's not over fussed on seeing him go.
Meireles aside Ngog, Poulsen and Cole going are good deals, some deadwood offloaded and as you say some money off the wage bill. Not a bad looking squad you've assembled.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Steal that. Liverpool fans claiming he was nothing more than a decent squad player
Benitez prodigy Phillipe Degen contract mutually cancelled and allowed to leave.'"
What was he then? Because he wasn't getting the 11 everyweek.
Hope it goes well for him ala Torres and Yossi..
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| Quote ="Roddy B"I'm a bit mixed on our activity this summer. We seem stronger for it, but I'm unsure if we've really got value for money. The true test will be this season, if we finish 4th, then it's well spent, if we don't, questions will be asked. Still think we should have kept Raul, he's a good player who offers versatility and strong technical ability. Henderson and Adam will eventually struggle for periods, having him here as an assurance - add Gerrard's sketchy fitness into the equation - would have made us stronger than £12m sitting in the bank, but ah well. A lot of money off the wage bill this summer, which is definitely good news.'"
Just a little bit stronger Rob just a little bit..
Its a totally different side to 12 months ago and if we need to add someone in Jan we will.
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| Liverpools summer has been just as much about getting rid of all the deadwood as it was to get new players in.
You've only got to look at the transfers out to know they've been pretty successful.
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| Quote ="Roddy B"I'm a bit mixed on our activity this summer. We seem stronger for it, but I'm unsure if we've really got value for money. The true test will be this season, if we finish 4th, then it's well spent, if we don't, questions will be asked. Still think we should have kept Raul, he's a good player who offers versatility and strong technical ability. Henderson and Adam will eventually struggle for periods, having him here as an assurance - add Gerrard's sketchy fitness into the equation - would have made us stronger than £12m sitting in the bank, but ah well. A lot of money off the wage bill this summer, which is definitely good news.'"
Is it true you are paying 60% of Cole's wages?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Is it true you are paying 60% of Cole's wages?'"
Yep, however it's still a saving of £2.5m I believe.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Is it true you are paying 60% of Cole's wages?'"
Yes, I read also online that we get first refusual on Edin Hazard for 2012 as part of the loan deal.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Is it true you are paying 60% of Cole's wages?'"
It is according to the Guardian.
Pleased United got the shopping done early on allowing the new players to bed in and gel during pre-season. Great to see Cleverley being given the chance to push on too.
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| How much did Liverpool pay for Meireles? Great business if they made a profit when he was sold.
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| Quote ="William Bonney"How much did Liverpool pay for Meireles? Great business if they made a profit when he was sold.'"
They paid £11.5m to Porto did they not, which when you add in agents fees, signing on fees and medical expenses etc will be at least as much as the £12m Chelsea paid for him. So break even on a player who didn't want to stay. You can't keep players in that situation, it will never be beneficial.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"They paid £11.5m to Porto did they not, which when you add in agents fees, signing on fees and medical expenses etc will be at least as much as the £12m Chelsea paid for him. So break even on a player who didn't want to stay. You can't keep players in that situation, it will never be beneficial.'"
Especially given his age, value is only likely to get smaller from here on in.
Decent player mind, but don't think he would have started too many games for Liverpool (should have over Henderson though).
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| Meireles is a decent player but too inconsistent, if you ask me. Having read a few articles on the internet though, I'm now suprsied that AVB wanted him as he shipped him off to us instantly at Porto classing him as dead wood. Just wish we hadn't of sent Aquaman on loan now.
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| Roma made some quality Football Manager signings last night. Kjaer and Pjanic, they'll be awesome on FM.
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| I'd personally like to thank Chelsea for taking a striker who has scored 1 or 2 goals in 7 months, our 5th choice central midfielder and Benayoun in exchange for Suarez, Downing, Adam, Enrique, Coates and Bellamys wages.
Much obliged.
24 players out of Liverpool with only Brad Jones remaining from Woys Weign of Tewwow. 8 players in and roughly 150k a week off the wage bill with money in the bank for a raid on an attacking midfielder in January.
Take a bow KD and DC.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Meireles is a decent player but too inconsistent, if you ask me. Having read a few articles on the internet though, I'm now suprsied that AVB wanted him as he shipped him off to us instantly at Porto classing him as dead wood. Just wish we hadn't of sent Aquaman on loan now.'"
Aquilani would have been good to keep hold of but ATEOTD his heart was in Italy and I don't think there's much we could have done about. It feels brilliant to actually have a squad now rather than relying on same players over and over again. Our 2nd XI now is probably better than some of the teams we were sending out in the Europa League group games last season.
1st XI: Reina, Johnson, Carra, Agger, Enrique, Adam, Lucas, Gerrard, Downing, Suarez, Carroll
2nd XI: Doni, Kelly, Skrtel, Coates, Aurelio, Spearing, Shelvey, Henderson, Kuyt, Bellamy, Maxi
Flanno, Robinson, Coady, Wilson all squad players.
The only place we look weak there is our 2nd XI central midfield. WE'll rectify that in January and It's still better than Everton's first choice.
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| Quote ="Sthelens RLFC"Aquilani would have been good to keep hold of but ATEOTD his heart was in Italy and I don't think there's much we could have done about. It feels brilliant to actually have a squad now rather than relying on same players over and over again. Our 2nd XI now is probably better than some of the teams we were sending out in the Europa League group games last season.
1st XI: Reina, Johnson, Carra, Agger, Enrique, Adam, Lucas, Gerrard, Downing, Suarez, Carroll
2nd XI: Doni, Kelly, Skrtel, Coates, Aurelio, Spearing, Shelvey, Henderson, Kuyt, Bellamy, Maxi
Flanno, Robinson, Coady, Wilson all squad players.
The only place we look weak there is our 2nd XI central midfield. WE'll rectify that in January and It's still better than Everton's first choice.
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You will need a centre back to really challenge for the title. Jamie Carragher is the football equivalent of Paul Wellens. A borderline club legend who is thoroughly past his best and now ruining his legacy by becoming a complete liability.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"You will need a centre back to really challenge for the title. Jamie Carragher is the football equivalent of Paul Wellens. A borderline club legend who is thoroughly past his best and now ruining his legacy by becoming a complete liability.'"
Sadly, I agree.
Lessons can be learned by looking at how United have managed their older players such as Neville, Giggs etc. I expect to see less and less of Carra as the season goes on.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Roma made some quality Football Manager signings last night. Kjaer and Pjanic, they'll be awesome on FM.'"
And they beat Liverpool and Swansea to Fabio Borini.
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Obviously being you, that is completely over the top but I do agree to a certain extent. I put him in as I know KD will probably stick with him for a while. Skrtel improved last year and I'm hoping Coates will get some game time soon as well. If Carra becomes 4th choice through these two pushing up, I won't be disappointed.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"And they beat Liverpool and Swansea to Fabio Borini.'"
How many more posts in a row are you going to make about/mentioning Liverpool? Absolutely obsessed. And you say I'm cracking up.
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| Calm down Robbie, it's just an internet forum.
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| IM quite happy with everton deadline day. Arteta would have been the player i would have got rid of for money anyway. So with money from Arteta (10m) , Beckford (4m), Yakubu(1.5m) , Vaughan(1.5m) that is money that can go off the debt and help the club out in the long run. Drenthe and Denis should be good players on loan.
My Team would be (when all fit ha)
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Coleman Jags Distin Baines
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Barkley..................Drenthe
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Subs Mucha , Heitingha , Neville , Bily , Cahill/Osman , Denis , Vellios
Leaving Yobo , Hibbert , Anichiebe , Baxter , Gueye
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