We obviously value success differently then don't we. To Me henman is nothing but mediocre or average, you have bought into this henman is a great tennis player. I refuse to.

Crossword competitions?

Henman had been ranked in the top 10 in the world, he can't be a bad player.

Is Monty a crap golfer seeing as he's never won a major?

Well done Henman!!!

More like the old dears who watch tennis. Quite a few dislike him, as evidenced on here. Hardly the whole country!



England did in 1990. Guess who thinks that was a success. Henman has never won a grandslam despite hype. And he never will!



Hype.



The Robinsons Barley Water Middle England Trophy?



He's never disappointed me!

I suppose most tennis players will have a top 10 ranking at one time or another, still not buying into this henman thing, he could have done far better, his record in majors/gran slams is crap

Same with monty when the big games come they between them have not won one, why is that?

Monty will never be the golfer he should be until he wins a major.

Dont know if its been mentioned on here but Katie O'brien from Hull/Beverley is through to round 2 too.

What utter garbage.

No they have not.

Monty is a fantastic golfer, whether he wins a major or not.

How can you be a fantastic golfer with 0 majors?
In the big tournaments he has choked along with henman. Unless mediocrity is what you want. Henman had the potential to win atleast a grand slam, montgomerie had the potential to win more than a major. Yet when we add them both together

We get a big fat zero.

mediocracy at its best, british players yet again being put on pedastals that do not befit there status.

Being one of the top players in the world is mediocre?

Both have had great careers and given their all, they have both been unlucky in major tournaments.

He's won a Masters series tournament in Paris, couple of doubles titles and a few ATP tour titles.

That's about it. Never been in a Grand Slam final. Hell, even Rusedski got to the US Open final in '97........okay, so he got caned by Pat Rafter, but he got there!

I'm guessing if getting to the Semi Final is "mediocre" then her achievements are positively worthless.

Well dont all us Tim Henman doubters look silly now

Not at all.

Still a long way to go yet.........

we will do IF he wins or even gets to the final but otherwise no -he had a battle to even get through the first round

I don't recall Monty often choking in the Ryder Cup. Or is that not a 'major tournament'?

England Football team dont win World Cup they are chokers, Henman doesn't win Wimbledon hes a choker, Cricket team don't win the ashes they are chokers....you get the picture, if your British/English and your not the best your a choker

Quite annoying when most of the criticism comes from people who have achieved nothing themselves.

Chances are the same will happen to Murray in a few years unless he wins something big...

It's not a major tournament, no. There are 4 majors and Monty's won precisely 0 of them.

As for Wimbledon, it's weird watching centre court with no roof on.

Monty's not even won the "5th Major"!

While not being one of the 4 majors it is a 'big' tournament in the golfing world, which was my original if poorly phrased post.

And the Paris event Tim has won, once, is one of the Masters Series that are considered big events within the tennis world.

I don't think he's a great player, but if you think about the other dross we've had to put up with over the years, such as Jeremy Bates, then Henman has had a decent career.

Could it have been better, probably, but he's hardly been a duffer.

People who call Henman a 'loser' or a 'choker' etc clearly know nothing about tennis, and i'd suggest sport in general.

He's consistently been at the top of his profession for a good ten years, and in many ways been an excellent ambassador for the country and his sport.He's travelled the world doing something he enjoys, and has made a lot of money in the process. If he's a loser, can i be one too please?

I'm not sure, how middle class are you?

I'm from Padgate, so probably upper middle-class.

Though i fail to see what class has to do with it.

Well, lets ask all those British tennis players who used it as an escape from poverty shall we?

Still dont get it.


Ah , now i do. Youre one of those inverted snob types who resents anyone with more money than you. Right?

No, I just dislike priviledge. The inequalities in our society are a great evil which should be addressed. When even how long someone will live can be partly decided by their social class, then something is wrong.