Could be said of many teams if they'd had to play with 10 men. Where would United have finished in the league if Ronaldo's goals had been stripped out?

I don't know? Bottom?

In his record season? 5th, according to soccerbot.com.

To a certain extent, such a stat does have limited meaning, but it's not entirely pointless. The key thing is the ability to replace those goals if the player is unavailable. Even in that prolific season for United, Ronaldo accounted for less than 39% of their goals, compared to Suarez providing a shade over 57% of Liverpool's so far this year. In those terms, Liverpool are currently only behind Sunderland and Newcastle with their reliance on one goal source, and I would expect Pa Cisse to change that before too long.

Who cares?

Me, hence the question
Just seemed strange

Maybe they wanted to get back on with the game as they thought they could win it? Just a thought.

mmmmmm, could be.

No, they went to Carragher and Gerrard. No one likes the Suaz, not even his teammates. He's a grub.

From all accounts Suarez's team mates seem to love him. I've read interviews, stories from the press and so on and he seems as popular a figure as any at the club.

The only problem between Suarez and his team mates is the gulf in ability. People can't stand him but he's a truly brilliant player, if he had better team mates he'd be so much better as well IMO.

He's no Phil Neville that's for sure.

you saying Phil Neville

doesn't bite opposition players?


trys finishing opposition players career's then feign injury himself?


pull hair?


or the holy trinity, stamp, dive, simulate injury all in one combo?

And then he went and pulled his own hair. I'm sure he bit his lip too.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20321225 Quote ="Peter Herbert - Society of Black Lawyers"What on earth are the FA and Chelsea playing then? Are they having some cosy exchange of statements between themselves and not giving it to the police? '" What a complete and utter idiot. Football just needs to tell Herbert to do one. He's a complete fool and only using football to make a name for himself. The police getting involved in the John Terry case was the biggest hindrance to the case from all sides. They have no place intervening in football matters when the worst they could have punished Terry with was a £2,000 fine. The police and CPS just wasted police time and public money getting involved in something they had no business getting involved in.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20321225 Quote ="Peter Herbert - Society of Black Lawyers"What on earth are the FA and Chelsea playing then? Are they having some cosy exchange of statements between themselves and not giving it to the police? '" What a complete and utter idiot. Football just needs to tell Herbert to do one. He's a complete fool and only using football to make a name for himself. The police getting involved in the John Terry case was the biggest hindrance to the case from all sides. They have no place intervening in football matters when the worst they could have punished Terry with was a £2,000 fine. The police and CPS just wasted police time and public money getting involved in something they had no business getting involved in.

Quality!

Peter Herbert is nothing more than a sanctimonious, self-promoting, chip-on-shoulder racist nitwit. Twice i've heard him interviewed on TalkSport in the past month, he's not done himself any favours, including saying a white players union would be akin to the BNP



He is poison, pure and simple, and the sooner his name disappears from the footballing circus the better.

He also threatened to report Spurs to the Met Police if they didn't take action to stop their fans saying the word 'Yid' in chants.

No worse than the stuff Rooney and Scholes have done throughout their careers.

er.....lol

It's a shame Suarez is such a twunt, it takes away from just how good a player he is

Has it taken anything away from Scholes or Rooney? They seem to be stacked with recognition despite being horrible tacklers/divers/cheap shot merchants (insert whichever for each player). I don't recall people talking about the time Scholes took a swing for Alonso, but I guess Suarez biting somebody's ear really is that much worse than trying to jaw someone, right? What about Defoe? Remember him biting Mascherano? Didn't think so. Suarez isn't the most pleasing of people to watch on the pitch, he's frustrating and pushes the boundaries of being competitive. Yes, it's a shame, but so many other players do it I don't see why it's such a big problem to so many oppo supporters. Stoke players do far worse every week yet it's completely accepted as a tactic.

He's quite simply the current scapegoat, that's all.. though i'm sure there's a few on RAWK who might suggest it's an FA conspiracy. I hope you don't go on there, you're at least a LITTLE bit measured with your bias, somebody on there claimed 'There's never been a luckier player than Javier Hernandez'... which made me giggle. Oh, also neither Scholes or Rooney have been a racist... but that's by-the-by i guess.

I don't think he is. He is just morally bankrupt. He seems to struggle with the basics of right and wrong and simply doesn't care.

He is no doubt incredibly unpopular off the field as well as on it.

AFAIK, the only off field antics I can think of are his varying excuses for the lack of the handshake and his appeal to the Dutch league because his club didn't want to sell him.

Apart from those two events, all his indiscretions are on the pitch.

I don't know what he's like off the pitch. But I also don't care either.

Would I rather have Suarez, with all his negative incidents, or Torres, with his crap play. Hello Luis, goodbye Fernando.

In a nutshell. Everybody on here would have him in their team in a heartbeat. He would get into any team in the world.

Totally agree, and there lies the problem for Liverpool....Suarez and his agents will have no doubts about his value and his potential and unless Liverpool suddenly improve massively in the next 12 months, then its almost certain that he'll be hawked around the big Champions League sides.

I'd give it until next summer, then I think Suarez will be gone.

He's a good player, but not THAT good.