He's clearly got you riled, though, otherwise you wouldn't be talking about it at such great length. Job done.

Yet he doesn't have any problem getting well established football players to come and play for him!!!!

But shown himself to be a hypocrite in the process. I suppose that's 'mind games', though.

Ferguson is a hypocrite. He's proven that many times over since 2005 with his sudden change in attitude and principles towards supporters' groups at Old Trafford.

Doesn't change the fact that he's managed to do exactly what he wanted to do here, though.

Football manager is a hypocrite shocker! You'd struggle to find one that isn't.

The Welcome to Manchester sign was the best when it had "Stockport branch" on it.

What has he done?

Are you saying that his over-reaction and loss of temper is 'job done'.

How strange.

I'm quite calm about it. In fact, City fans on the forums have been laughing about it. However, United fans have been frothing at the moment, coming out with "They should be reported to UEFA on the grounds of provocation" and "United is in Manchester", and my favourite "The irony is that United were formed in Manchester but City were founded in Gorton, which isn't in Manchester".

You wouldn't believe how much fun we have had over this episode.

I would be more embarrassed to support a club that was named after a town in which it is not based

agreed - but iirc the fans made it known pretty sharpish that it was tasteless.

You answer that question with your previous post.

You wouldn't believe the fun Utd fans have had either. Still claiming to be the local club despite south africa tours and arabian sponsors.



Putting any 'this is our city' posters up in Hyde/Cheadle/Salford this season?

Umbro are a Manchester brand, the club is based in Manchester (the only club based in the city) and club continue to do lots of great community-based work in Manchester. Not to mention, they pick up the best young talent in the city.

Interesting logic.

So you, for instance, wouldn't be a 'local' boy if you went out of the country for work?

Strange.

Or more appropriately, Ferguson has managed to do exactly what we wanted here.

You can't whack the irony in a bloke saying that we talk about them all the time whilst talking about us at very great length in a rather condascending manner.

In reality, he has just given us a big back-handed compliment by showing everyone how rattled he has been by the whole thing.

pedant mode on and sorry for having to refer to wiki



'Umbro (LSE: UMB) is a UK sportswear and equipment supplier based in Cheadle, Greater Manchester, England.'

'Cheadle is a small town in the Metropolitan Borough of Stockport in Greater Manchester'

'The Metropolitan Borough of Trafford is a metropolitan borough of Greater Manchester'

what is and isn't in Manchester seems to vary dependent on the point you want to make.

I think the latest responses have proven my point. The giddiness factor at city is the highest it's been in recent years, which says something.

By the way, on the Cheadle point, it does seem that our blue brethren change the Mancunian boundaries as and when it suits.



Does someone want to tell them where Cheadle actually is?

Awesome.

Quality pic.

Umbro was based in Manchester for years. If memory serves one of the founders was at one time heavily involved with the club. Maybe Dave can confirm. They also still have a studio near oldham st in town. That's 'Manchester' enough for me.

I don't see any 'giddiness'.

Cheadle is far closer to Manchester than Islington. I don't see what you are getting at with the picture. That maybe a Cheadle branch flag but the owner could well be from Manchester. Unless you are of the opinion that no Mancunians have ever moved to Cheadle. I would gladly consider any evidence to the contrary that you may be able to supply.

If you were Mancunian by birth, why the f*ck would you put Cheadle on your flag?

Why, in any case, would you put Cheadle and 'This Is Our City' on the same flag anyway? It doesn't really do the argument much good, does it?

And no doubt there is a flag somewhere with "Islington Reds" on it, as there are many from around the world. I've yet to see a non-Mancunian place name flag with "Manchester is Red" on it, though. Common sense prevails, y'see.

Still, carry on. It's all very amusing what's coming out of Eastlands at the moment.

Republik of Mancunia with Reading on it last season.

The city flag could well have been a Cheadle branch flag, as I stated above. Hardly unlikely is it? I personally think it looks silly but neither of us know the facts.

The fact that plenty of you jump on the scouse-manc rivalry even though many of the fans are cockneys, Irish and south east Asian is cringeworthy.

What is coming out of Eastlands?

Fair enough. That's just as f*cking stupid as the Cheadle flag.



It is a Cheadle branch flag. Cheadle isn't in Manchester. So why have "This Is Our City" on a flag for Cheadle? I know you're attempting to close ranks here, but surely you can see how daft it is? Mind you, I guess it's the done thing at city.



Yeah. God forbid that Mancunian and Liverpudlian football clubs have an intense rivalry even though fans on both sides aren't from those cities. I guess the Mancunians and scousers out there should just forget about it? Or maybe, God forbid, some of them base it on footballing rivalry only? After all, take the city rivalry out of it and the two clubs still have huge reasons to be strong rivals. Eighteen times, five times, three times... And so on.



Extreme giddiness, we're going to become one of the biggest clubs in the world, we'll be buying the best players in the world, we're the richest club in the world and you're all jealous, blah, blah... That "Welcome to Manchester" billboard is one of the most laughable things I've ever seen in my life. It's funny how one of the few decent blues I've actually spoken to about the Arab takeover doesn't like it. She sees the club turning into everything you've all slagged United off for since the '90s and doesn't like it. Most of you are lapping it up without a thought of any of that. Happy to sell out for the hope of success.

By the way, before you say it, the above also goes for Chelsea, United and Liverpool fans who see no problem with their respective owners as long as the trophies roll in. It's a sad indictment of modern football that won't stop until it all goes horribly wrong.

Still, you enjoy yourselves, won't you?

Nike own Umbro, hope that's Manchester enough for you.

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