No not at all. Chris Johnson is the Titans MVP. Absolutely no doubt about that, but he needs VY (or a QB to be playing well) and vice versa.



Yep, i've read the article. Rodgers still needs more credit and he'll start to get it no doubt when we beat Arizona and then he leads us to Miami.

I also disagree that there are 15. Personally i think there are between 5-7 at most.

Cribbs is going to request a trade from Cleveland since they only offered him $1.4 per year.

Congratulations Browns on managing to get rid of your best player.

His argument was that its hard to throw for 25+ tds and 4k and now alot of players have the ability to do that.

I cant believe that they are willing to let him go, no scrap that this is the Cleveland Browns were talking about they are complete numpties, I dont know if he will change his mind now because he said this before Mangini was confirmed to be staying on as coach so maybe Mangini will pesuade Holmgren to resign him to a better contract, if not I would expect the Oakland Raiders to be the first team on the phone trying to trade for him, hes also a better QB than JaMarcus Russel having completed 22.2 % of his passes so maybe they could kill 2 birds with 1 stone

Eagles are gonna do it this year guys. Maclin game winning td 'gainst Colts.

I think they will struggle to beat Dallas after the royal ass whooping they got t`other day from them but if they can get past them theres no reason why they cant make it back to the SB, Indy however will not make it again IMO but little Peyton will still get his annual MVP

That shows how highly they rate him then. He'll be gone soon enough.

Yeh we did get destroyed. Hopefully Reid will get into 'em and sort them out for Sunday.

What do you think they'll get for him? Maybe a 3rd?

Since they shifted Braylon Edwards, being Cleveland's best player is hardly a glowing recommendation.

He's effective out of the Wildcat and returning kicks but offers little as a genuine WR. How much should you pay someone like that?

I don't know how the NFL come up wit hthe ranking but it appears to take rushing into account.

I accept that a quality QB with the ability to make adjustments at the line and wit ha quick release can avoid sacks but he's never hit. Never. I don't watch the Colts that closely. I do watch the Redskins. Put Peyton behind our line and he wouldn't finish the season, let alone win MVP.

i noticed the Colts had low rushing numbers but i also noticed that they run the ball fewer times than most other teams in the league.

They do, but they have the 2nd lowest YPC in the league. This is just my opinion, and I am a bit of a know nowt!! It does seem to me though, that he is under constant pressure when there is a decent pass rush.


How do you feel about the Shanahan apointment? Did I read that his son's coming in as OC? My mates a Redskins fan and had enough of it towards then end of last season. My gloating text about beating them with our 2nd string didn't go down all that well!

Edwards was terrible after the one good season he had. He couldn't catch a cold (i accept having rubbish QB's doesn't help).

Cribbs is excellent on returning kicks, but he is also IIRC the top special teams tackler on the Browns and the gunner on punts. He is a better overall special teams player than Hester when he was playing special teams. He has 400 rushing yards, is an effective wildcat player, a decent 3rd or 4th reciever and actually taken a few pass attempts. His play alone has won them games. Like Hester in his day havng him back there means teams will kick it away from him giving better field position.

By all accounts he is a key guy in the locker room, was promised a new deal before Mangini came in and didn't get it, was promiseed another one when Holmgren signed and this was the offer.

It's a difficult one to say what to pay him, personally i think he's worth $3-5 per year (potentially parity with Hester?? (although i don't know what he's on)) and i'd be looking to get as high as a 2nd round draft pick for him.

At the very least a 2nd round draft pick.

I think he's exactly what we need (and his son) and I think he's a great hire but I've seen too many "saviours" in the last ten years to get too carried away just yet. I am fairly excited about what him and Bruce Allen can do for us.

Anyway, you may have played your 2nd string but don't forget that we were actually playing our 3rd, 4th and even 5th stringers but not by choice.

I may have asked you this before G1 (i can't remeber), what is your take on Jason Campbell?

Personally i'm a fan of his and think he is very competant and in the right system could do very well.

Rams fans (El Pac, Adam) i read somewhere that Bulger is considering retirement, i think that is more likely to lead to a case for Clausen being drafted.

Bulger considering retirement ?

Actually just looking for the article and Bulgers reps have [ujust[/u stated that [url=http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=369&line=165944&spln=1he is not looking to retire[/url.

I'd agree with that assessment.

There are issues with him. Unlike Manning (P) and the truly greats his decision making can be slow and he needs a lot of protection, also his release isn't the quickest. Having said that, he has poise, great feet, is as tough as teak (needs to be with our O line) and has a huge arm. I'd like to see him be more accurate with his intermediate throws.

I think there are four or five top notch QBs' in the league - Peyton, Brady, Rovers, Brees and Favre. He's nowhere near their class and probably won't ever be but I'd put Campbell in the middle of the next pack. We can win with him.

One thing I loved was that Shannahan said that he would make the system suit the QBs' strengths, the opposite of what Zorn tried to do by making Campbell a west coast QB.

I hope we keep him if for no other reason that there will be nobody better in free agency or, in the short term, in the rookie draft class.

The Seahawks have fired Jim Mora Jr. A bit rash after 1 season IMO.

I have a feeling that we'll take a run at Jason Campbell if he hits free agency.

Can't wait for the playoffs now

Last week most of the games were god awful, love it when it comes down to win or bust.

Apparantly they're looking to Pete Carroll.

Agreed!

Very funny cartoon about Commissioner Goodell here.

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If you have never seen a "bang" cartoon about the NFL have a look back through the archives. They're funny.

Very rash.