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| Also, if you put 'mcfc honours list' into google, you might find the first option given amusing.
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| Quote ="Karlos13"Also, if you put 'mcfc honours list' into google, you might find the first option given amusing.
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| Quote ="Danny 2"Jimmy Bullard will miss the rest of the season through injury
he has only played one game hasnt he'"
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| Quote ="No1_Saints _Fan"Any ideas why Chimbonda is wearing number 97.'"
Because he's a ? ? ?
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| Quote ="OoOGazOoO"Because he's a dude? ? ?'"
Pretty sure he wore a normal number in the League last week, that's all.
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| [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7900177.stmBlue card sin-binning...one step closer?[/url
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| thanks shaktar had them at evens
bnig rumour in spain is that agüero is on his way out of atleticoin the summer with two destinations likely....
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| Quote ="Nemanja"[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7900177.stmBlue card sin-binning...one step closer?[/url'"
I hope so!
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"I hope so!'"
I think there's a lot of merit in the idea. A lot of merit. A sinbin would be even better in football IMHO, when you're a player down it isn't as bad as it is in RL. Things are getting a bit silly with fouls in football. A sort of intermediary card whereby you punish someone more mildly could just save some players from unnecessary sendings off and big games being ruined.
I can see moaning and shouting at the referee being pulled up a lot more, because it just doesn't warrant a sending off all that much but a five minute cooling off spell? Hell yes.
It'll sometimes be used as a cop out though. There's always a down side. And I'd make it ten minutes not five.
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| I agree.
I think we see too much cynical stuff now, and too many players 'taking one for the team'. Take a situation, for example, there's a break on and it's 3 on 1 for the attacking team, a player is getting back as quick as he can and he brings the ball carrier down quite cynically, knowing full well he'll get a yellow, but he knows it won't be a red as he wasn't the last man. Would this player be willing to do so if it resulted in a 10 minute sin bin? I think it would certainly add more doubt.
I still think we should have yellows, but a blue card woul definitely be a great addition in my opinion.
I think this would complicate things a little, but could they not do Ice Hockey-eque penalties, say 5 minutes for a minor, 10 for a major? Or should it just be a straight 10 minute sin bin? as defining whether it's a sin bin is hard enough, let alone deciding whether it would be a minor or major.
I also think it may end some of those 'soft' reds we get, for things like an unintentional studs up challenge, which these days seems to warrant a red, although most say it should only be a yellow, maybe the blue could be the answer...
I'm all for it, I hope they try it out more and more and hopefully it works out.
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| Now look, i know there's a few people who seem to be revelling in the fact that Jimmy Bullard is injured. Always something to chuckle at, isn't it?
Anyway, it's safe to assume that most are laughing because it looks like City have spunked 5 million bones on a cripple, and it turns out that we did know he had a cartilege tear, but this post on a City forum goes some way to explaining all about it:-
Quote Let me hopefully enlighten the less enlightened people on here with regards to knees and meniscus's and acl's. I'm not an Orthopod but having had 6 knee surgeries, including having had both left and right ACL reconstruction, I'm probably about as good as it gets for a non-medical type person when it comes to knee knowledge.
1. A minor meniscus tear can potentially be manageable, at least for a few months until the end of the season, hence their decision to sign JB despite this injury.
2. Despite the wonders of MRI's, unless the machine is programmed correctly a tear in an ACL can be missed quite easily.
3. Orthopods are always more comfortable with going in and having a proper look around and establishing the true extent of a) the meniscus tear, and b) anything else that an MRI scan may have missed, as proved to be the case unfortunately.
4. To call the ACL tear a reoccurrance of the old injury is misleading. The new ligament, fashioned from either the middle 3rd of the patella tendon or harvested from the hamstring tendons, is a completely new ligament. Sometimes if the old ligament was not fully torn it will be retained and knitted in to the new ligament to add additional strength and stability (as happened with my right ACL).
5. A newly constructed ACL, either from the patella tendon or hamstring tendon, is approx 3 times the strength, once grafted and settled, of the original ACL. Tendons are stronger than ligaments.
Bottom line, City and JB have been extremely unlucky, end of story from a medical standpoint.
6 months minimum I would suggest, so we're realistically looking at a September return to playing as a minimum.
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So there you are. If this is our last bit of bad luck this season, i'll be pleased. And we've got this far without having him in the team, so there's no panic from me.
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| A rule that i'd love to see in football, when a player goes down injured, they should be made to stay off the field for 5 minutes, rather than going off and coming straight back on. This would stop players staying down for the sake of, just to try and kill the game. Also, if a player is really hurt, then the chances are that 5 minutes off the field will do him good and allow him to get some treatment. Really winds me up when a player goes down 'injured' then as soon as the other team put the ball out, jumps up and carry's on.
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| Quote ="Nemanja"[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7900177.stmBlue card sin-binning...one step closer?[/url'"
A great idea IMO, it will improve the game a lot, and mean that we (hopefully) wont see as many dives, and it could create a much more free flowing game IMO.
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| Quote ="harleyboy742"A great idea IMO, it will improve the game a lot, and mean that we (hopefully) wont see as many dives, and it could create a much more free flowing game IMO.'"
You reckon?
For the period of the sin-binning the team affected would just throw 10 men behind the ball and you'd have a five minute game of attack and defence. If a player needs to commit a cynical foul he'll still commit it in the knowledge that his team will shut up shop while he's off and hopefully hang on until he comes back.
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| Quote ="saint billy"A rule that i'd love to see in football, when a player goes down injured, they should be made to stay off the field for 5 minutes, rather than going off and coming straight back on. This would stop players staying down for the sake of, just to try and kill the game. Also, if a player is really hurt, then the chances are that 5 minutes off the field will do him good and allow him to get some treatment. Really winds me up when a player goes down 'injured' then as soon as the other team put the ball out, jumps up and carry's on.'"
Please, please tell me someone has hacked your account to make you look stupid.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"You reckon?
For the period of the sin-binning the team affected would just throw 10 men behind the ball and you'd have a five minute game of attack and defence. If a player needs to commit a cynical foul he'll still commit it in the knowledge that his team will shut up shop while he's off and hopefully hang on until he comes back.'"
Teams throw 10 men behind the ball anyway against the better teams. the sin bin would be a great idea. It should be used to tighten up on dissent and diving.
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| Quote ="saint billy"A rule that i'd love to see in football, when a player goes down injured, they should be made to stay off the field for 5 minutes, rather than going off and coming straight back on. This would stop players staying down for the sake of, just to try and kill the game. Also, if a player is really hurt, then the chances are that 5 minutes off the field will do him good and allow him to get some treatment. Really winds me up when a player goes down 'injured' then as soon as the other team put the ball out, jumps up and carry's on.'"
I can understand where you're coming from but cant see how it would work...what if 2 players from the same team clash heads then that team would be down to 9 men for 5 minutes through no real fault of their own.
What I would think about is trying to bring in a rule that says when Giggs (for example) is fouled and the ref gives United the free kick, then Giggs doesnt have to go off after receiving treatment...why should the team that has been sinned against have a disadvantage at the ensuing free-kick??? I know its pretty much the same as it always used to be but it wasnt that bad was it???
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| Quote ="keithcun"Please, please tell me someone has hacked your account to make you look stupid.'"
Well, nice counter argument. Very intelligent.
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| Quote ="OrdsallRed"What I would think about is trying to bring in a rule that says when Giggs (for example) is fouled and the ref gives United the free kick, then Giggs doesnt have to go off after receiving treatment...why should the team that has been sinned against have a disadvantage at the ensuing free-kick??? I know its pretty much the same as it always used to be but it wasnt that bad was it???'"
That's the thing that pi$$es me off as well.
Walking off the pitch to come back on again seems like a pointless waste of time and effort, and as you say the player's team is disadvantaged.
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| Quote ="OrdsallRed"I can understand where you're coming from but cant see how it would work...what if 2 players from the same team clash heads then that team would be down to 9 men for 5 minutes through no real fault of their own.
What I would think about is trying to bring in a rule that says when Giggs (for example) is fouled and the ref gives United the free kick, then Giggs doesnt have to go off after receiving treatment...why should the team that has been sinned against have a disadvantage at the ensuing free-kick??? I know its pretty much the same as it always used to be but it wasnt that bad was it???'"
Quote ="Nemanja"That's the thing that pi$$es me off as well.
Walking off the pitch to come back on again seems like a pointless waste of time and effort, and as you say the player's team is disadvantaged.'"
See, Saint Billy, someone came along to show you the errors of your point. Me, I just thought I'd have a laugh at your expense, because to be brutally honest, if you hadn't even thought of that, you deserve everything you get.
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| Quote ="OrdsallRed"I can understand where you're coming from but cant see how it would work...what if 2 players from the same team clash heads then that team would be down to 9 men for 5 minutes through no real fault of their own.
What I would think about is trying to bring in a rule that says when Giggs (for example) is fouled and the ref gives United the free kick, then Giggs doesnt have to go off after receiving treatment...why should the team that has been sinned against have a disadvantage at the ensuing free-kick??? I know its pretty much the same as it always used to be but it wasnt that bad was it???'"
It's just when a player goes down to stop the game on purpose, then jumps up straight away, it really winds me up. Obviously if the player has been fouled and is genuinely hurt, then he will either have to go off for treatment anyway, or he will be staying down to make it seem worse to try and get people booked or sent off. If he is genuinely hurt then chances are he will need the treatment in that 5 minute spell.
I do understand that if two players of the same team bang heads, then they may need treatment, maybe the officials could judge the situation and if they feel that the player is not actually hurt, then they could have the option to make them go off for the 5 minutes, rather than making a rule that says they must go off. Its the referee's opinion.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"You reckon?
For the period of the sin-binning the team affected would just throw 10 men behind the ball and you'd have a five minute game of attack and defence. If a player needs to commit a cynical foul he'll still commit it in the knowledge that his team will shut up shop while he's off and hopefully hang on until he comes back.'"
Thing is, some teams do that anyway. I Think the introduction of the sin bin would mean that teams would try not to foul as much, as they will be without a player for 10 minutes.
It will take some getting used to in the game but I think it could work TBH
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| Quote ="keithcun"See, Saint Billy, someone came along to show you the errors of your point. Me, I just thought I'd have a laugh at your expense, because to be brutally honest, if you hadn't even thought of that, you deserve everything you get.'"
I did think of it. It's something that really winds me up and would like to see a way of it being stopped, hence me starting a bit of discussion on it.
If that's what you get your laughs from, then to be brutally honest, you need a life.
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| Then you could end up with officials trying to ascertain whether a player is injured/hurt or not...in this litigious times that will never ever happen.
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