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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"And yes I'm amazed to find myself agreeing with Conroy for once!
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2 things.
1) Your not the first person to say that!
2) At least your actually right for a change.
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| Quote ="Moon Knight"O/T if anyone fancies a match on madden 2010 my name is halloweenhead. Sorry if this should be in the games thread in the sin bin....'"
PS3 or X-BOX ?
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| Quote ="LFCRhino"Quote ="Moon Knight"O/T if anyone fancies a match on madden 2010 my name is halloweenhead. Sorry if this should be in the games thread in the sin bin....'"
PS3 or X-BOX ?'"
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| Quote ="LFCRhino"He wouldnt know that though even though its all he ever seems to talk about when it comes to the Patriots
He cant badmouth the players so resorts to the "cheat" card
I must admit it makes me laugh how no-body has mentioned anything about it since 2007 apart from Mr Conroy his jealousy of the Patriots is quite evident, instead of concentrating on how well his own team is doing he would rather talk about us its quite sweet actually, maybe he has a secret man crush on Tom Brady
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You could have had all the film in the world on us and youd have still lost.
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When i was reading the Eli Manning book it gives great depth on the Plaxico Burress TD. Apparently we'd tried the play 3 times before as it was originally a slant. But Eli noticed that Hobbs was just guessing and that if we Plax to go the corner we'd walk in. It was going to happen a play earlier but the Patriots never blitzed, as soon as they did it was easy pickings.
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| Quote ="Moon Knight"PS3'"
I will give you a game mate just as soon as my internet on the PS3 stops dicking around
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| Quote ="LFCRhino"I will give you a game mate just as soon as my internet on the PS3 stops dicking around
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Awesome, never played a match on the net before, saying that...I have never even played someone that knows something about American Football.
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| Quote ="Moon Knight"Awesome, never played a match on the net before, saying that...I have never even played someone that knows something about American Football.'"
You wont find many online who do especially the Americans I have found strangely
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| The press conference is schedule for 7pm but in case anyone is in any date we have signed Shannahan.
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| What's happened to Snyder,a couple of weeks after getting a good GM he hires a HOF coach Maybe after years and years of throwing his money away the Redskins will now challenge consistantly in the NFC East.
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| Brian Cushing (Texans) has won DROY.
Percy Hervin (Vikings) has won OROY.
Personally i wouldn't have given it to either of those. Cushing is just the typical give it to the linebacker with the most tackles like it is every year. DROY should have been Jarius Byrd IMO.
Hervin has been good but alot of his work has come on special teams, i'd have given OROY to Michael Oher. He has been phenomenal.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4673771/football-outsiders-brady-ranks-no-1
=#8000FFSo much for Brady "not being himself" this year eh
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I'd love to see how they actually calculate the stats with strength of schedule factored in.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"I'd love to see how they actually calculate the stats with strength of schedule factored in.'"
While Football Outsiders is a very interesting website, I wouldn't base my thinking on some of the stuff they come up with. They have Baltimore rated as the best team in the league in their DVOA ratings. Stats, while obviously are a good indicator of certain things, never tell the full story. While Brady has done very well this season considering his injury from last year and the fact that he's played through injury, if some people truly believe that he's been the number one QB in the NFL, I'd seriously question what they've actually been watching this season.
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| According to sky text, the 49ers will be a home team for one of next years international games, with the eagles touted as possible oponents.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"I'd love to see how they actually calculate the stats with strength of schedule factored in.'"
I know, imagine getting to play the Lions twice a year and the shoddy bears and playing the NFC west or only having 3 wins against team with a winning record(one was against the cardinals stiffs). At least their division is competitive, unlike the NFC north.
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| Quote ="chico's nose"According to sky text, the 49ers will be a home team for one of next years international games, with the eagles touted as possible oponents.'"
I heard that too a few days ago
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"Brian Cushing (Texans) has won DROY.
Percy Hervin (Vikings) has won OROY.
Personally i wouldn't have given it to either of those. Cushing is just the typical give it to the linebacker with the most tackles like it is every year. DROY should have been Jarius Byrd IMO.
Hervin has been good but alot of his work has come on special teams, i'd have given OROY to Michael Oher. He has been phenomenal.'" I think both awards were fully merited.
Harvin was much more than a return man. He had 60 receptions, 42 of which went for 1st downs, and 6 receiving TDs. He was also effective running the ball, 15 times for an average of 8 yds. Not dissing Oher, but reports are he was great at run blocking but struggled with pass blocking. Mind you, his book (and film) are brilliant.
Cushing put up all pro numbers, and not just in tackles (133 combined). He also had 4 sacks, a safety, 4 ints and 2 FFs. The kid was a beast. I'd love to argue the case for Orakpo, who was alo a monster, but Cushing was an obvious choice.
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| Quote ="G1"I think both awards were fully merited.
Harvin was much more than a return man. He had 60 receptions, 42 of which went for 1st downs, and 6 receiving TDs. He was also effective running the ball, 15 times for an average of 8 yds. Not dissing Oher, but reports are he was great at run blocking but struggled with pass blocking. Mind you, his book (and film) are brilliant.
Cushing put up all pro numbers, and not just in tackles (133 combined). He also had 4 sacks, a safety, 4 ints and 2 FFs. The kid was a beast. I'd love to argue the case for Orakpo, who was alo a monster, but Cushing was an obvious choice.'"
One of the best posts seen on this thread.
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| Quote ="G1"I think both awards were fully merited.
Harvin was much more than a return man. He had 60 receptions, 42 of which went for 1st downs, and 6 receiving TDs. He was also effective running the ball, 15 times for an average of 8 yds. Not dissing Oher, but reports are he was great at run blocking but struggled with pass blocking. Mind you, his book (and film) are brilliant.'"
I don't have any stats for Oher, but from the times i saw him he looked excellent and i don't think he has been significantly beaten by anybody. No matter how well he did it would never be an O-line man. I think Austin Collie should have taken Hervin close (his stats are almost identical to Hervin).
Quote ="G1"Cushing put up all pro numbers, and not just in tackles (133 combined). He also had 4 sacks, a safety, 4 ints and 2 FFs. The kid was a beast. I'd love to argue the case for Orakpo, who was alo a monster, but Cushing was an obvious choice.'"
Cushing is a good player and has a good year (but it's alot to do with being the MLB with the most tackles like it goes to every year without fail). However i think Byrd who is the joint leader in INT's in the league with 9 in only 11 games started is much more impressive. He's been a difference maker.
You can make the case for both awards to be correct, and they probably are, but just saying i'd have given them to other people who i think have performed better.
Hopefully we find out the DPOY, OPOY and MVP soon.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"
Hopefully we find out the DPOY, OPOY and MVP soon.'"
Charles Woodon, Chris Johnson, Peyton Manning IMO
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| Quote ="NSW"Charles Woodon, Chris Johnson, Peyton Manning IMO'"
I agree.
Charles Woodson is a certainty if there is any justice in the world. The Colts have been scored against 47-0 when Manning has left the game. He is a certainty for MVP. Chris Johnson is very likely, i'd have said Brees but they have collapsed. Rivers is also a good shout for OPOY.
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| I would go with the DROY and OROY they were both outstanding, Jarius Byrd deserves a mention for the amount of interceptions he had but I dont think they could have looked passed Cushing like G1 said he had everything this year
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| Loads of worthy candidates for OPY. Steven Jackson has done wonderful things in a truly awful team where defences know he's the ONLY weapon. Chris Johnson has been a wow. Some class Qb performances from Rivers, Manning, Brees and Favre.
I wouldn't give it to Manning. He's deserving but it would be Karmic if he didn't get it this year, having got it last year when he wasn't deserving.
Defensive should be Woodson, I'd agree.
There's an argument that Favre, at his age, and the difference he has made to the Vikes, is a good shout for MVP but I'd rather it not be a Qb for once so would go with Johsnon.
It will be Manning though.
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| Quote ="G1"Loads of worthy candidates for OPY. Steven Jackson has done wonderful things in a truly awful team where defences know he's the ONLY weapon. Chris Johnson has been a wow. Some class Qb performances from Rivers, Manning, Brees and Favre.
I wouldn't give it to Manning. He's deserving but it would be Karmic if he didn't get it this year, having got it last year when he wasn't deserving.
Defensive should be Woodson, I'd agree.
There's an argument that Favre, at his age, and the difference he has made to the Vikes, is a good shout for MVP but I'd rather it not be a Qb for once so would go with Johsnon.
It will be Manning though.'"
Eli's had his best year with us 4k + and 27 TDs but hardly think hes deserving of the honour.
Id go with Favre also and Johnson for OPOY, DPOY i'd go with Woodson and for coach of the year I'd go for Caldwell.
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