Yep because thats exactly what i said

. All i'm saying is that Ferguson is known for keeping young players in line and getting them to realise their potential. Something that even you have admitted Babel isn't doing.

Fancy our defenders keep kicking the ball away...how rude

Ah hello sir, they were bloody brilliant those 2

Surely you must agree that Fergie has tended to well at bringing kids through to the first team at Old Trafford?

What are your opinions on Benitez as well? Do you agree with me or do you also blindly follow?

Also, i see your Djemba Djemba and raise you Dossena

Even a net spend of £10m this season instead of zero would of added a good forward or winger hows he going win the title win zero net spend? magic?

So its Rafas fault? seems you just dont like him.

Look i really can't be d going on with this, when i present a fact you make up an excuse. I'm clearly wasting my time. If your happy with a manager who has spent more than £100mil and had half a decade to build a team to challenge for the league after inheriting a top 4 squad, only to be 9 points back after 10 games. I personally would of expected to see a team that doesn't rely on 2 players been fit to be able succeed.

Good luck to you, i think your gunna need it get 4th

Well who else's fault is it? A young, rich footballer with a lot of spare times on his hand needs a manager to look after him and keep him concentrating on football. No doubt your gunna rattle out some twaddle sticking up for him though.

Few Million spent in the last two seasons an you think we should be challenging

Excuses? where? I gave you honest answers


Go back to supporting York/Man U

For the last time, £100mil over 5 years. Fair enough if you don't think that those 3 years of big spending should of built you a squad with some depth.

I presented to you a link which proved all my points about net spend and you tell me they are wrong every time i use the figures.

Enjoy your season, lets call a truce and see how it all unfolds. Who knows i may be completely wrong

Total Net Spend: £83,876,000

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I support York, i live in York. I grew up supporting Man Utd but realised i wasn't exactly supporting em sat on the sofa at home, making it to 1 or 2 games a season. I followed them because they were succesful, I will readily admit that. A couple of years ago I went to a York game with my dad and it reminded me of how much i enjoyed been at the games. It showed me I wasn't a Man Utd fan i was just along for the ride. Following your club is about living it and i do that now. I'll always look out for the Utd score because of my childhood but York are my team.

On the Arsenal front surely you guys must enjoy watching them? I'm far from been a supporter i just enjoy watching them play.

Yeah i did say that if you take the 04/05 transfers you said out it was over £80mil pal. Which is what that seems to say.

Anyways this has been a fun way to spend an evening. Nowt wrong with a bit of lively debate! Like i say good luck to you the rest of the way, chances you will finish higher than York will

Bellamy and Keane should never have been sold by Liverpool.

Eh?

Bellamy went when Torres came in

Keane should of been kept given the fact no replaced was bought or money given to replace him.

Think i said somewhere that if you include the Cisse signing as a Houllier signing the net spend of Rafa is in the region of £80-90mil?

Its taken all night but we finally we agree on something

Yes with the Cisse signing its around £98-100Mil without it its £83mil.

Youtube - Kano & Rio Ferdinand are rock n rollers

Oh dear Rio.

Ferguson: minus £60m net spend this season.

Utd are still expected to win the title though.

To be fair to the weirdo hes a better "rapper" than Kano!!!

You're a better rapper than Kano.

We dont need to spend 10 mill on a back up.

People like Javier Saviola where available in the summer for 0! He as no talent spotting top players.

We've not had a top winger for years. Niko Kranjcar signed for Tottenham for little money this summer. Where was we ?

The amount of players we miss out on is unreal!

Saviola? It seems like you're the one with the problem, pal. Quite clearly hasn't been up to it at the best clubs as shown in his spells at Barca and Madrid. I'm actually a fan of his, but if you deem him good enough for Liverpool or good enough for England, when he's been nowhere near good enough for either big Spanish side, then you clearly have problems judging players. In real life of course, not FM.

Kranjcar signed for Spurs but we didn't have the money, furthermore, who's to say he's what we need? What Rafa wants and if he'd fit into our formation and style? I also like Kranjcar, but we can all throw names out of the hat that Rafa could have bought. I always wondered why we never bought Dani Alves before he was a big name, we could have got him years back for half the price Barca payed for him...