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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"I'm not sure what Khan gains by having a rematch with Maidana....The only time he will need that fight is if he loses again and needs to make cash by getting involved in title-less fights that appeal to US audiences, in a similar way to the Gatti-Ward series.
While the first fight was a great one and Maidana certainly had his moments, the fact is, Khan was a class above him - On my card, he won it clearly by 4 or 5 points, and the suggestion that the ref could have stopped Khan is a bizarre one...Yes, he was wobbled and was on unsteady legs, but if he had been stopped, it would have been a scandal as Khan had similarly had Maidana in big trouble at various points in the bout.'"
this is what will seperate khan from the others... would get much more respect from the fans if he gave them what they wanted like as you say gatti-ward.. marquez-pacman.. eubank-benn.
i think khan was one more shot away from being KO'd by maidana, was a brilliant fight, shame there was no part 2.
id like to see him take on judah again too as this was abit of a strange fight the way it was stopped! might happen as garcia fights judah next?
imagine when khan goes up to welterweight, the punchers will be even harder! but he can always look for an opponent with a low KO ratio.
how the hell has arthur abraham wrangles himself another world title
think thats it for the big fights now for a while isnt it? can look forward to kell brook in feb time.
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| Well Khan wanted to fight Bradley and unify the division but Bradley didn't want to know. So he went to Peterson's backyard to fight him instead, Peterson was a top 5 rated LWW, he wasn't given the decsion but I thought he won, and then he took on Garcia to unify again, he took a thunderous shot which would have finished most fighters - even Garcia's power was too much for a roided up iron chinned Moarales. The fact is there arn't many big punchers in the LWW division apart from Garcia, Maidana and Lucas Matthysse. Matthysse is now the mandatary for Garcia's WBC title so a fight between him and Khan may happen next year.
Even at WW the 4 current champions (Gurrerro, Bradley, Alexander, Malinaggi) arn't punchers. As a boxing fan I want to see the best in each division fight each other, Khan has done that generally, and although some of his opponents may not be power punchers he's always in exciting fights it seems.
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| Khan has mentioned originally he was keen on having Naazim Richardson be his new trainer (the fact they share the same religion may possibly have been a factor) but Richardson doesn't believe Khan should be fighting @ 140, but I think Khan has played an absolute master stroke in recruiting Virgil Hunter; he's the main reason why Ward is as good as he is rather than Ward's own natural ability IMO.
Having seen a lot of footage of Hunter it's clear to me that Freddie Roach isn't even in this guy's league on a lot of levels. I'd go so far as to say that Roach was a bad influence on Khan in terms of how he conducted himself and I get the impression Khan now realises this.
Under Hunter Khan has no option but to remain humble and get his head down and in turn I think Hunter will be a really positive influence on Khan as a fighter and a person. Hunter has already said that had he been around when Garcia's dad was trash talking whilst Khan was speaking at press conferences, that he would have interceded and shut Garcia Snr up. Things like this maybe small but it will help Khan focus
I think Khan should go for Peterson first and then Garcia next summer. Then he can move up to 147 were there are mega fights.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Khan has mentioned originally he was keen on having Naazim Richardson be his new trainer (the fact they share the same religion may possibly have been a factor) but Richardson doesn't believe Khan should be fighting @ 140, but I think Khan has played an absolute master stroke in recruiting Virgil Hunter; he's the main reason why Ward is as good as he is rather than Ward's own natural ability IMO.
Having seen a lot of footage of Hunter it's clear to me that Freddie Roach isn't even in this guy's league on a lot of levels. I'd go so far as to say that Roach was a bad influence on Khan in terms of how he conducted himself and I get the impression Khan now realises this.
Under Hunter Khan has no option but to remain humble and get his head down and in turn I think Hunter will be a really positive influence on Khan as a fighter and a person. Hunter has already said that had he been around when Garcia's dad was trash talking whilst Khan was speaking at press conferences, that he would have interceded and shut Garcia Snr up. Things like this maybe small but it will help Khan focus
I think Khan should go for Peterson first and then Garcia next summer. Then he can move up to 147 were there are mega fights.'"
khan was still getting caught by molina though even with hunters training, mind you not been together that long, but at this level your always going to get caught..
like the idea of peterson then garcia.. is peterson not banned??? garcia has to get past judah first too though
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| Interestingly, Khan never does any training outside his training camps. Hunter has said he will now be training a few times a week outside of his training camps.
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| Anyone seen much of Deontay Wilder? He's a 6'8 HW prospect from America, he's not that great technical but I reckon he's got more power than Price from what I've seen, 100% KO ratio so far after 26 fights, albeit against weak oposistion. I reckon Fury and Price would out-box him at the moment but he's one to keep an eye on.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Anyone seen much of Deontay Wilder? He's a 6'8 HW prospect from America, he's not that great technical but I reckon he's got more power than Price from what I've seen, 100% KO ratio so far after 26 fights, albeit against weak oposistion. I reckon Fury and Price would out-box him at the moment but he's one to keep an eye on.'"
There's lots of ifs and buts with these HW contenders at present.....Wilder looks strong and powerful, but he really has been fighting bottom grade fighters - His latest KO victory was very amateur looking, and, at the moment, I'd say Price is head and shoulders above him.
You never know how things will develop though....At least he actually looks mildly threatening, unlike a lot of the recent US heavyweights.
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| The HW division isn't as dead as its made out to be, there's a few good fights that could get made but it seems the fighters and promotors are scared of losing a potential shot at one of the brothers. Povetkin, Pulez, Price, Fury, Boystov, Wilder, Arreola, Chageav, they could all fight each other. 2013 could be the year HW boxing becomes relevant again.
Also I see Golden Boy have applied for a liscense to promote events in the UK. That could be a huge boost for the sport in this country.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"The HW division isn't as dead as its made out to be, there's a few good fights that could get made but it seems the fighters and promotors are scared of losing a potential shot at one of the brothers. Povetkin, Pulez, Price, Fury, Boystov, Wilder, Arreola, Chageav, they could all fight each other. 2013 could be the year HW boxing becomes relevant again.
Also I see Golden Boy have applied for a liscense to promote events in the UK. That could be a huge boost for the sport in this country.'"
i think they are all just waiting for the brothers to retire... then they can call themselves the heavyweight champ with 3 belts up for grabs
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| David Price... WOW!
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| Anyone who has followed Price's career in the ametures won't be surprised by this loss. He's been dropped countless times, and despite all the hype that's surrounded him since he turned pro I've always been skeptical as to whether he was durable enough to make it in the pro game. Some people will point to the likes of Khan, and Wlad whom managed to rebuild their careers after suffering bad KO losses early in their careers, but Price isn't as young as Khan or Wlad were and, he doesn't have the sound technique, and a world class trainer like Wlad had. I bet Fury is pi55ing himself whilst also being slightly annoyed that his potential payday with Price now looks to have gone out of the window.
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| It was an absolute shocker. There's always been talk of a glass chin but that really didn't look too heavy a shot. Of course that's easy to say from my sofa..
I agree about Fury. Wonder what he's like on Twitter? I know he's s bit crazy on there anyway!
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| agree fury will be kicking himself... should strike while the fight is hot like chisora and haye did.
but of a funny shot round by the ear
but always been the question marks about his chin, but lets face it if you get hit by a heavyweight clean your going to go anyway
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| Quote ="brearley84"agree fury will be kicking himself... should strike while the fight is hot like chisora and haye did.
but of a funny shot round by the ear
but always been the question marks about his chin, but lets face it if you get hit by a heavyweight clean your going to go anyway'"
It wasn't clean though was it? That was a fight to get Price some rounds and get some work done I think. Shouldn't have been a risk at all. I doubt many other guys would go down to that shot...
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| Quote ="Steve-O"It wasn't clean though was it? That was a fight to get Price some rounds and get some work done I think. Shouldn't have been a risk at all. I doubt many other guys would go down to that shot...'"
no it wasnt clean it was around the ear which can affect the equilibrium and no one gets up from them.
if you was looking at the fight on paper you would of backed thompson really with his record vs prices.. shouldnt of been such a shock..it was a step up for price and he failed.
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| Quote ="Steve-O"It wasn't clean though was it? That was a fight to get Price some rounds and get some work done I think. Shouldn't have been a risk at all. I doubt many other guys would go down to that shot...'"
If, as suggested, Price has suffered a perforated ear drum, then it looks pretty obvious that this can be put down as pretty much a freak KO, because any significant damage to the ear will see the reaction that Price's legs gave.
The odd thing is, the question mark over Price's chin is still not answered because his chin was not hit and as for a future Price-Fury fight, while Fury's followers might now say their fighter will be favourite, I'd tend to still go with Price, simply because he is technically the better boxer.
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| There're no questions about Price's chin, its weak. He was dropped and stopped numerous times in the ametures, with head gear and and gloves that are at times like pillows. Thompson is no mug, his only losses in the last few years have come against Wlad but he's not known as a big puncher and at nearly 42 shouldn't have had a chance really. Price has unquestionable power but his accuracy and tequnique are suspect IMO, I'm not convinced he's as far infront of Fury as many think, Fury doesn't have Price's power, he's got better hand speed, he throws his combinations better and he's more durable.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen" I'm not convinced he's as far infront of Fury as many think, Fury doesn't have Price's power, he's got better hand speed, he throws his combinations better and he's more durable.'"
Fury is technically poor. Yes, he throws combinations, but in his last fight was doing so with his feet in all the wrong positions and so his punch power was seriously reduced.
Also, because of his technical flaws, he was decked a few fights ago by Pajkic, who was an absolute nobody and only recovered because his opponent was an extreme novice....Against a half decent fighter, with a good punch, Fury will come unstuck and won't get the chance to recover - He'll be knocked unconcious.
Fury's best bet would be to find himself a better trainer who can use his hand speed properly, whilst retaining his power.....Without some power at top level, a heavyweight has no chance and, at the moment, Fury has none.
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| Great win for Hopkins.... again!
Ricky Burns set to be announced to be the latest fighter to be going to Matchroom sports tomorrow. Only Cleverly left with Warren pretty much now.
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| well done to hopkins, warren will be doing his utmost to get him in with cleverley next.,
everyone seems to be desserting warren!!! is he finished? looking that way.. hearn is the man now to be with.
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| Times have changed. Fans don't want to watch British fighters take easy defenses time after time, and never leave their home town, and fighters don't want to be involved in fights against tomato cans over and over. Any fighter with any ambition wants to fight the best fighters, and fight for titles and Hearn has done that. Yes the likes of Rees and Barker have lost but their stock has risen and they've got a decent pay day out of it.
Hopefully Groves will be on the Froch-Kessler undercard. A fight with Abraham would be good.
As for Warren well he still has Clev, Gavin and Saunders but unless he can get them bigger fights I can't see them sticking around for long. Especially with Golden boy looking to promote in the UK as well as Hearn's rise.
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| Quote ="brearley84"well done to hopkins, warren will be doing his utmost to get him in with cleverley next.,
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| Interesting news that headguards will be removed for the senior men at this year's World Championships, apparently to reduce the risk of head injuries.
More importantly, the amateur game is moving on to the same scoring system as the pros. No more button pressing and computer scoring.
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| Degale fight postponed yet another
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Interesting news that headguards will be removed for the senior men at this year's World Championships, apparently to reduce the risk of head injuries.
More importantly, the amateur game is moving on to the same scoring system as the pros. No more button pressing and computer scoring.'"
About time. Although it wouldn't surprise me if it's been the Americans who've been pushing for this given their poor display in London. We might now start to see the emergence of fighters who can actually punch properly again.
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