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| We had the chances to win 2 tests in that series, but the bowlers couldn't get their job done.
The batsmen scored 9 centuries, shared amongst 6 of them, but the one time they failed it cost us the match.
Not exactly the preperation we were after with the Ashes coming up and I don't see it improving much in the short space of time left. Once again, we lack the killer instinct.
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| Quote ="GT"Just needed a few extra overs, unfortunately.'"
That and to tempt the West Indies in chasing something. For this failing and the one at St Johns, look to the captain.
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| Quote ="John_D"That and to tempt the West Indies in chasing something. For this failing and the one at St Johns, look to the captain.'"
St Johns, where we couldn't get the last man out in something like 10 overs? I'd look at the bowlers, rather than Strauss.
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"We had the chances to win 2 tests in that series, but the bowlers couldn't get their job done.
The batsmen scored 9 centuries, shared amongst 6 of them, but the one time they failed it cost us the match.
Not exactly the preperation we were after with the Ashes coming up and I don't see it improving much in the short space of time left. Once again, we lack the killer instinct.'" poor england maybe you could rise too the occasion like before
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"St Johns, where we couldn't get the last man out in something like 10 overs? I'd look at the bowlers, rather than Strauss.'"
Still batted on for far too long, though the problems with the bowlers are clearly evident. You have to give yourself the best chance in those circumstances and Strauss simply didn't.
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| Quote ="John_D"Still batted on for far too long, though the problems with the bowlers are clearly evident. You have to give yourself the best chance in those circumstances and Strauss simply didn't.'"
Sorry to repeat myself, but test match quality bowlers should not need more than 10 overs to dismiss the last pair. I agree we batted too long, but even then we had more than enough of an opportunity.
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| Quote ="John_D"Still batted on for far too long, though the problems with the bowlers are clearly evident. You have to give yourself the best chance in those circumstances and Strauss simply didn't.'"
The first time is forgiveable but to do it again smacks of incompetency. KP was out in the middle and he looked confused as to what is going on.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"The first time is forgiveable but to do it again smacks of incompetency. KP was out in the middle and he looked confused as to what is going on.'"
The first time was absolutely forgiveable. I don't think he batted too long in the first place, he gave the bowlers ample time to do what they get paid for and they failed him. Plus to leave yourself vulnerable to defeat when already 1 down in a 4 match series would've been suicide.
As for the last test, he had absolutely nothing to lose. He could've declared earlier giving his bowlers more time and also give the Windies a sniff of victory. If the Windies had chased the total and won then so what?? We lose the series 2 v 0 instead of 1 v 0. A loss is a loss is a loss.
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| Quote ="airliebird9"The first time was absolutely forgiveable. I don't think he batted too long in the first place, he gave the bowlers ample time to do what they get paid for and they failed him. Plus to leave yourself vulnerable to defeat when already 1 down in a 4 match series would've been suicide.
As for the last test, he had absolutely nothing to lose. He could've declared earlier giving his bowlers more time and also give the Windies a sniff of victory. If the Windies had chased the total and won then so what?? We lose the series 2 v 0 instead of 1 v 0. A loss is a loss is a loss.'"
The first one I agree to an extent but why the hell Anderson came in as a nighchmen in that situtation is beyond belief and then why we had to persist to the 500 mark when wickets were tumbling is also very strange.
The last match I felt we had to offer something a little more tempting and we should have had them in before lunch.
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"Sorry to repeat myself, but test match quality bowlers should not need more than 10 overs to dismiss the last pair. I agree we batted too long, but even then we had more than enough of an opportunity.'"
Yes, but if you know the standard of your bowlers maybe isn't all that, then plan accordingly, oui?
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| Englands pace bowling attack is woeful.
Anderson bowled fairly well in this series and still couldn't get us a result.
Khan I think looks okay, with a bit of experience his stump to stump bowling and reverse swing could be beneficial.
Broad needs to figure his bowling out, too inconsistent, really he should be able to hit the same spot over and over with his action.
Harmison, Sidebottom etc I would leave out in future.
We have no chance in the Ashes, our seam attack with the exception of Flintoff is not capable enough. No extreme pace, no consistent line and length and no good swing bowling. Unless Monty can get himself a googly (which is highly unlikely) we have no chance.
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| The bowlers have got worse and worse since Troy Cooley left. IMO the ECB should do all they can to get him back
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| Miss T&T doing the toss at the 20/20 International.
Windies win and will bowl.
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| Steve Davies in for Matt Prior for England.
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| Pietersen out to a shocking LBW decision.
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| Quote ="tiger2000"Pietersen out to a shocking LBW decision.
Eng 66/3 (9)'"
awful, on first viewing it looked like it was going down leg, it clearly was.
Bad Jimmy has turned up, 33 wides in the first over defending fck all.
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| Quote ="flipper"awful, on first viewing it looked like it was going down leg, it clearly was.
Bad Jimmy has turned up, 33 wides in the first over defending fck all.'"
Hes probably going to lead our bowling attack in the Ashes series.
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"Hes probably going to lead our bowling attack in the Ashes series.'"
well let's hope good jimmy turns up for those then
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| Quote ="flipper"well let's hope good jimmy turns up for those then'"
Good Jimmy turned up in the Test series against the Windies and couldnt bowl them out.
I have very little hope against the Aussies.
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"Good Jimmy turned up in the Test series against the Windies and couldnt bowl them out.
I have very little hope against the Aussies.'"
true, but should be a little more shwing in uk conditions
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