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| I don't think too much blame can be laid at Shearer. But the fact is that he's been brought in to save Newcastle from relegation. The positive effect from that has been negligible.
Shearer deserves as much blame as Dennis Wise. But as Wise is a cockney, ex-Chelsea/Wimbledon player and Shearer is a geordie legend, Wise will get a million times more blame than Shearer.
The bad thing for me though is if Newcastle beat Boro on Saturday they've got a good chance of staying up. The geordies will be demanding a Sainthood, a Knighthood and possibly deification for Shearer if that happens.
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| villa 1-0 hull city
think city will relegated imo
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Villa havent been playing very well last month or so and if they keep that up tonight and IF we play like we did against Liverpool theres no reason why we cant nick a point tonight
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missed opportunity for hull city tonight. you're making it very hard for yourselves.
does that mean the bottom six all lost this weekend?
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| I doubt Hull will get relegated.
They've potentially got two more games (if Man United need something last game, you could discount that) to get a point I'd estimate.
Due to the utter gash in the bottom three this year, I'd have predicted none of them would pick up another point. But with Boro to play Newcastle, if one of those win it'll be 34 points for the winner.
If it's a draw though, Hull will be safe with what they have. They're playing with more passion than Boro and Newcastle combined anyway.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"He's been too slow for a couple of years now, I'm surprised Liverpool have kept him this long, although I appreciate he was a fair way down the pecking order.'"
Always stepped up to the plate when called upon and played well in the past few years.
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| Quote ="Danny 2"villa 1-0 hull city
think city will relegated imo'"
Glad they lost they may need to win there last game of the season..
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"I don't think too much blame can be laid at Shearer. But the fact is that he's been brought in to save Newcastle from relegation. The positive effect from that has been negligible.
Shearer deserves as much blame as Dennis Wise. But as Wise is a cockney, ex-Chelsea/Wimbledon player and Shearer is a geordie legend, Wise will get a million times more blame than Shearer.'"
I thought your post was actually going to be ok until i read that.
The only real positive for Shearer coming in was PR for Ashley, turning to one of the 2 people that would be able to get that kind of response from Newcastle fans.
Wise stuck his nose in when Keegan was manager, and brought in some overpriced, over-rated individuals.
It's no suprise that Shearer didn't want Wise sticking his nose in, in the same manner it made Keegan's job as manager, impossible.
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I thought your post was actually going to be ok until i read that.
The only real positive for Shearer coming in was PR for Ashley, turning to one of the 2 people that would be able to get that kind of response from Newcastle fans.
Wise stuck his nose in when Keegan was manager, and brought in some overpriced, over-rated individuals.
It's no suprise that Shearer didn't want Wise sticking his nose in, in the same manner it made Keegan's job as manager, impossible.'"
The cockney mafia out chants? whos that at?
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| Next week is a huge week with Hull playing what is IMO their most winnable of their remaining games and Newcastle playing Boro. If Hull were to win it really would be curtains for whoever loses the Newcastle-Boro game.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Glad they lost they may need to win there last game of the season..'"
I want to win it against Arsenal, it might start going some way towards repairing the damage caused when Wiltord won it for them at Old Trafford a few years back.
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| Quote ="Red Red Robin"Next week is a huge week with Hull playing what is IMO their most winnable of their remaining games and Newcastle playing Boro. If Hull were to win it really would be curtains for whoever loses the Newcastle-Boro game.'"
stoke wont be easy at all
stoke are miles better then city
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| Quote ="Danny 2"icon_lol.gif
stoke wont be easy at all
stoke are miles better then city'"
for a start they score goals
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stoke wont be easy at all
stoke are miles better then city'"
But they don't have Turner...
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| Quote ="Wire_85"The cockney mafia out chants? whos that at?'"
Probably Wise, Ashley and Kinnear.
Or Chelsea if they were playing at the time.
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| Quite surprised at all of the stuff about ourselves and Hull on here, yet no mention of the mackems. They are by no means out of it. They're worse than us and that's saying something!
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| Quote ="Catalancs"for a start they score goals'"
city have only scored three times this year iirc
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"Quite surprised at all of the stuff about ourselves and Hull on here, yet no mention of the mackems. They are by no means out of it. They're worse than us and that's saying something!'"
The league table says otherwise
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"Quite surprised at all of the stuff about ourselves and Hull on here, yet no mention of the mackems. They are by no means out of it. They're worse than us and that's saying something!'"
probably cos there's no sunderland fans on here to have the banter with (wind up)
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"Quite surprised at all of the stuff about ourselves and Hull on here, yet no mention of the mackems. They are by no means out of it. They're worse than us and that's saying something!'"
Could be because theres no mackems on here
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| Quote ="Ski"The league table says otherwise'"
Have you watched them play recently? They got the points on the board early doors but are very much in the mire now.
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| Henceforward Hull City will be referred to as Hull Nil.
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I thought your post was actually going to be ok until i read that.
The only real positive for Shearer coming in was PR for Ashley, turning to one of the 2 people that would be able to get that kind of response from Newcastle fans.
Wise stuck his nose in when Keegan was manager, and brought in some overpriced, over-rated individuals.
It's no suprise that Shearer didn't want Wise sticking his nose in, in the same manner it made Keegan's job as manager, impossible.'"
You want to blame Wise for Keegan going, but it should be Keegan you blame.
Kevin Keegan is a geordie legend. He's managed Newcastle to comparative success. He's managed England, Fulham and Citeh. If he cannot manage to win Ashley's ear to outmaneuver Wise then he's clearly not up to the job anyway. It was the same whine from Keegan over the England job. Sven managed to employ the assistant he wanted. Keegan complained that he wasn't allowed to employ his favoured assistant because he was too old.
Wise may have been a dreadful DoF. He may have stuck his nose in Keegan's business. He may have slept with half the team's wives. But ATEOTD he was only a Director of Football and he was basically only there because Ashley wanted him there.
You only want to blame Wise and Ashley because you cannot accept any blame to your main messiah.
I'm not surprised Shearer didn't want Wise still at the club because most managers don't want DoF's. But him getting Ashley to get rid of Wise doesn't mean all the blame of Keegan going can be placed on Dennis Wise. Keegan's a serial runner, if he didn't have this excuse he'd have found another one soon enough.
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"Have you watched them play recently? They got the points on the board early doors but are very much in the mire now.'"
think sunderland are safe tbh
it will be a three way battle for relegation with west brom already dowm imo
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"But him getting Ashley to get rid of Wise doesn't mean all the blame of Keegan going can be placed on Dennis Wise. Keegan's a serial runner, if he didn't have this excuse he'd have found another one soon enough.'"
the way he left the england job was really classy
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