Tyson was waaay past his best by the time he fought Holyfield. We were talking about in his prime, otherwise it's an unfair comparison. It's hard to say whether the others would fold so easily. In the case of Louis, he never came up against anyone a dangerous as Tyson IMO (see cjb's reference to 'bum of the month club' - Louis and Marciano were probably the most criticised for this), and Foreman was also given plenty of fodder to plough through. Once he came up against someone who didn't crumple quickly in Ali, he had no idea what to do.

Yeah, I suppose it's as easy as that because it's not as if Tyson had a decent defensive style or anything.

Tyson and Foreman were both similar in that they were unbelievably strong over the first 6 rounds, but not really comfortable going much further. Neither or them were ever beaten in early rounds when at their best, so it's tough to say one would quickly overpower the other or even one would take it over the distance. Claiming Foreman in 2 minutes is just plain silly though IMO.

about 20 million each

Tyson is no way a top 10 heavyweight - top 15 maybe. People always talk about how good he was in his prime, but who did he beat in his prime? Spinks? A blown up light-heavyweight. Bruno - never an elite heavyweight. An Aincent Larry Holmes?

A prime tyson is possibly the most overrated fighter of all-time.

My top 10 heavyweights (in no order)

Joe Louis
Ali
Lewis
Holyfield
Holmes
Foreman
Fraizer
Dempsey
Tunney
Liston

Are you serious?

Of course I'm serious!

Who did he beat???

2005-06-11 Kevin McBride L TKO 6 10


2004-07-30 Danny Williams L KO 4 10


2003-02-22 Clifford Etienne W KO 1 10


2002-06-08 Lennox Lewis L KO 8 12


2001-10-13 Brian Nielsen W RTD 7 10


2000-10-20 Andrew Golota TKO after 2 for Tyson to an NC, due to Tyson testing positive for marijuana

2000-06-24 Lou Savarese W TKO

2000-01-29 Julius Francis W TKO 2 10x3


1999-10-23 Orlin Norris NC NC 1 10


1999-01-16 Francois Botha W KO 5 10


1997-06-28 Evander Holyfield L DQ 3 12
Tyson disqualified for twice biting Holyfield's ears, claiming he was retaliating to headbutting by Holyfield.

1996-11-09 Evander Holyfield L TKO 11 12


1996-09-07 Bruce Seldon W TKO 1 12


1996-03-16 Frank Bruno W TKO 3 12


1995-12-16 Buster Mathis W KO 3 12


1995-08-19 Peter McNeeley W DQ 1 10


1991-06-28 Donovan Ruddock W UD 12 12


1991-03-18 Donovan Ruddock W TKO 7 12


1990-12-08 Alex Stewart W TKO 1 10


1990-06-16 Henry Tillman W KO 1 10


1990-02-11 James Buster Douglas L KO 10 12


1989-07-21 Carl Williams W TKO 1 12


1989-02-25 Frank Bruno W TKO 5 12


1988-06-27 Michael Spinks W KO 1 12


1988-03-21 Tony Tubbs W TKO 2 12


1988-01-22 Larry Holmes W TKO 4 12


1987-10-16 Tyrell Biggs W TKO 7 12


1987-08-01 Tony Tucker W UD 12 12


1987-05-30 Pinklon Thomas W TKO 6 12


1987-03-07 James Smith W UD 12 12


1986-11-22 Trevor Berbick W TKO 2 12


1986-09-06 Alonzo Ratliff W TKO 2 10


1986-08-17 Jose Ribalta W TKO 10 10


1986-07-26 Marvis Frazier W KO 1 10


1986-07-11 Lorenzo Boyd W KO 2 10


1986-06-28 William Hosea W KO 1 10


1986-06-13 Reggie Gross W TKO 1 10


1986-05-20 Mitch Green W UD 10 10


1986-05-03 James Tillis W UD 10 10


1986-03-10 Steve Zouski W KO 3 10


1986-02-16 Jesse Ferguson W TKO 6 10
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1986-01-24 Mike Jameson W TKO 5 8


1986-01-11 David Jaco W TKO 1 10


1985-12-27 Mark Young W TKO 1 10


1985-12-06 Sammy Scaff W TKO 1 10


1985-11-22 Conroy Nelson W TKO 2
1985-11-13 Eddie Richardson W KO 1


1985-11-01 Sterling Benjamin W TKO 1


1985-10-25 Robert Colay W KO 1 8


1985-10-09 Donnie Long W TKO 1 6


1985-09-05 Michael Johnson W KO 1 6


1985-08-15 Lorenzo Canady W KO 1 6


1985-07-19 Larry Sims W KO 3 6


1985-07-11 John Alderson W TKO 2 6


1985-06-20 Ricardo Spain W KO 1 6


1985-05-23 Don Halpin W KO 4 4
1985-04-10 Trent Singleton W TKO 1 4


1985-03-06 Hector Mercedes W TKO 1 4

He beat everybody there was to beat at the time







Given the chance a prime time Mike Tyson would've beaten anybody and that includes your list of 10

Don't be ridiculous! He didn't beat Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe, Moorer. He didn't evern fight the likes of McCall, or Tommy Morrison.

Tyson IS the most over-rated heavy-weight of all time.

Someone has posted his fight record and there is not one fighter over any note who he has beat unless you count victories of muppets like Frank Bruno which is what Tyson's reputation was built on...

The only decent fighters Tyson has fought, smashed him up - simple as...

to say tyson IS the most over-rated heavyweight ever is absolute total cr@p



absolute moron

Tyson has never beaten any fighter who could be considered even in the top-25 all-time heavy-weights and that validates he IS the most over-rated heavy-weight of all time and therefore you are a thick imbecile who has proved yourself to know absolutely nothing about boxing and shouldn't post on this thread for that very reason.

these fighters would rate for something

You are the don of boxing I suppose

Sport is all about opinion. The issue of Mike Tyson beating somebody he never fought is purely hypothetical, you don't know for sure if Foreman would've beaten him and neither do I. That doesn't mean to say that either of us is a 'thick imbecile' who 'knows absolutely nothing about boxing'.

Your post above however does catagorically prove you are a knob

This website goes someway to prove my point. The compiler of this list has Tyson above the likes of Rocky Marciano who remains the only heavyweight champion to retire with an undeated record, which included 43 KO in 49 fights!! Many people's number 1 choice is also not so on this list...... coxscorner.tripod.com/20heavyweights.html All about opinion

This website goes someway to prove my point. The compiler of this list has Tyson above the likes of Rocky Marciano who remains the only heavyweight champion to retire with an undeated record, which included 43 KO in 49 fights!! Many people's number 1 choice is also not so on this list...... coxscorner.tripod.com/20heavyweights.html All about opinion

and if you think that tyson is the most over-rated heavyweight of all time then your the one that knows absoluetly feck all about boxing....
as you seem to be the world authority on boxers and obviously are a boxing fan then why the disrespect for tyson?? when he was a mere 20yrs of age and destroyed berbick to win the title did you think he was "over-rated" or fighting a nobody as you seem to think he did all his career??
tyson is more over-rated than:
max bear
carnera
schmeling
johansson
leon spinks
tate
weaver
dokes
coetzee
witherspoon
thomas
page
tubbs
smith
moorer
mercer

etc etc etc?????

Yes he is more overrated than all of those fighters.

now your just being silly.....

James Buster Douglas got a computer game license out of that one victory.

and if the ref and judges did'nt "make a mistake" with the count when douglas went down he would'nt have got anything!

"battle of the long count" 2 .....

How?? Tyson didn't beat one elite heavyweight in his prime (which was only about 2 years anyway). And when he did fight elite competition, he got his backside handed to him.

but he had give the ear back before he got his backside handed to him

Very true.