icc-cricket.yahoo.com/rankings/rankings.html can england go up in the rankings

icc-cricket.yahoo.com/rankings/rankings.html can england go up in the rankings

There are two ways to go:

Get as many as possible (250+) and start to bowl 10-15 mins before lunch, likely outcome draw they wouldn't even think about going for it (we couldn't bowl WIndies out in 160 overs never mind 60)

Set them 180 in about 75 overs and take the draw out of it, We would probably lose but the only way to force a win IMO, Strange things can happen when chasing down a small target.

Given that there was a clearly audible sound for the Chanderpaul one which was given not out, that's a bullsh*t excuse for a massively hometown decision.

The umpiring in this series (Asad Rauf when he's been in the middle apart) has been of a terrible standard. I've seen better in local league cricket.

Anoth poor pitch, pointless games of cricket imo.

Once again Shah earns a Test place and then does feck all with it.

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They both seem to be playing the Ashes winning captain into the number 3 slot, in my opinion.

England 235-5, with KP getting his ton.

EDIT - We have declared, setting them 238 to win

I was just thinking too little too late from KP!!

Then I thought I'd see how he has done over the whole series......

averaging 65 at the moment for the series (taken when on 91 not out today). Not bad you might think......


So I did Collingwood's, Strauss's, Chanderpaul's and Sarwan's too.

84, 66, 73 and 122 respectively

I would not complain one little bit if Vaughan was recalled.

I'd be more confident of us winning the Ashes if he was in the team TBH.

237/6 at lunch. Surley they need to declare?

You'd think so. The BBC did originally had it down as them declaring, but they're not so sure now.

They are allowed until 10 mins before play resumes to declare, SSN seem to think we're waiting as long as possible, but knowing Strauss' past record he'll delay it for a while yet.

What time they due back out, thought they'd be back playing by now?

Just seen, we have declared and set them 240 off 66 overs, which seems reasonable.

6-0 off 2, according to the BBC

We did declare.

Windies 8-0.

Also, Panesar has been fined 25% of his match fee for excessive appealing.

Broad has yet to find out what/if any punishment he is to receive for back chatting the umpire.

You can't have a referral you numpty, get his match fee deducted

WI 25/1 off 6ovs

31/2 off 10ovs

What a catch by Collingwood.

Sarwan should ge given out there if this referal system works properly

That is why it is aload of tripe

There wasn't enough evidence to overturn it.

That's the problem with the system, if he had been given out by the on field umpire and the batsman appealed it would be given out on referral, it should be used to get it right not spare the idiot umpire's blushes.

How much more evidence do you need?

It was clear it was going to hit leg stump. It's either there to give that out or it should be scrapped altogether

This test series has proved conclusively that the referal system simply doesn't work.

There have been so many utterly shocking decisions given using it. It is possible to tell with the naked eye which direction the ball is headed in because of the angle of the spin, yet the umpires have this ridiculous 'conclusive proof' arguement. The one just was stupid but not as bad as the one yesterday from Monty which was blatantly hitting middle of middle stump.

They have the hawk eye system, so why not just use that with all LBW decisions and the heat detector for decisions as to whether a batman knicked a ball. Currently umpring is completely subjective and so, so open to officials being bribed, simply because they can decide the outcome of most matches and get away with it.

Having said all that this series shows that there should be some control over pitches too. If the sides had batted both innings until all 40 wickets were taken, it would have probably taken 2 weeks.