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| If United, Citeh and Liverpool fans want to have a pi55ing contest, can't you all go to the bathroom so we don't have to see you?
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| [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14628121.stmNasri saga finally ending[/url
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| Second youngest team in Utds history apparently last night. Not bad for a club in decline. Wish we could be more like the real Manchester club.
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| Quote ="Karlos13"Second youngest team in Utds history apparently last night. Not bad for a club in decline. Wish we could be more like the real Manchester club.'"
You have to drop this 'real ' thing as a jibe. United are not based in Manchester. It's a fact that is not open to interpretation.
Mate, United played very well against Spurs last night. Just as they did in the Community Shield, United played with urgency, pace and excellent movement.
However, you cannot honestly say that Smalling, Evans and Jones will ever be as good as Ferdinand and Vidic, and that Cleverley will ever be as effective as Scholes, and that Ashley Young will be good enough to lace Giggs' boots. There is no doubt in my mind you will be weaker. As a team, I would prefer to make a judgement after a few more games. You look at the likes of Young and Wellbeck, and they have only produced in a few games.
I feel that there is a lack of creativity in eth team and that you will find it harder this season when teams sit back against you. West Brom were well-organised defensively and you looked toothless.
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| Quote ="Enfield Exile"You have to drop this 'real ' thing as a jibe. United are not based in Manchester. It's a fact that is not open to interpretation.
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Always provokes a response though. Most city fans I know are embarrassed about 'the only team to come from Manchester' jibes towards Utd fans. Especially now they are likely to be challenging Utd on the trophy front.
Regarding the rest of your post, people were questioning Beckham/Giggs/Scholes etc when they first broke through. Didn't do too bad though did they?
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| Quote ="Karlos13"Always provokes a response though.
Most city fans I know are embarrassed about 'the only team to come from Manchester' jibes towards Utd fans. Especially now they are likely to be challenging Utd on the trophy front.
Regarding the rest of your post, people were questioning Beckham/Giggs/Scholes etc when they first broke through. Didn't do too bad though did they?'"
Are most Man Utd fans equally embarrased about the jibes towards City about spending money and buying trophies when they spent £19M on Quiff, £20M on Young and £17M for Jones this summer?
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| Loving the old "Trafford isn't in Manchester" argument put forward by City fans.
As far as I'm aware, the City chant alludes to City being "the only football team TO COME from Manchester" and not "the only football team currently based in the environs of Manchester City Council".
I believe Newton Heath is in Manchester though.
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| Quote ="Ajw71"Are most Man Utd fans equally embarrased about the jibes towards City about spending money and buying trophies when they spent £19M on Quiff, £20M on Young and £17M for Jones this summer?'"
If you're gonna try and have a pop a players, at least be creative. Quiff? I'm surprised you weren't embarrased typing that. Get some bant.
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| Quote ="Mark"If you're gonna try and have a pop a players, at least be creative. Quiff? I'm surprised you weren't embarrased typing that. Get some bant.'"
So it's ok for you to spend millions on players but not for city to do the same. Right gotcha.
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| Quote ="Roddy B"But then he said Hart was better than Reina, which I found unbelievably odd, because, even as a joke, it wasn't funny, it was just outright strange. I can't think of anything Hart is better than Reina at, maybe City fans will enlighten us? '"
Why is the emphasis on City fans having to prove it when I would ask you to prove the same with Reina?
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| Quote ="Ajw71"So it's ok for you to spend millions on players but not for city to do the same. Right gotcha.'"
We're Man United, we'll do what we want.
We bring our own through as well though. We have always had a fine blend of home grown youngsters and world class players. City have a team of very good players they have overpaid for and Micah Richards.
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| Quote ="Ordsall Quays Red"Loving the old "Trafford isn't in Manchester" argument put forward by City fans.
As far as I'm aware, the City chant alludes to City being "the only football team TO COME from Manchester" and not "the only football team currently based in the environs of Manchester City Council".
I believe Newton Heath is in Manchester though.'"
"the only football team currently based in the environs of Manchester City Council".? I guess you mean the City of Manchester?
Old Trafford is not in the City of Manchester and never has been.
That is all I am going to say about it as I want to talk about football rather than list facts on subjects such as geography.
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| Quote ="Mark"We're Man United, we'll do what we want.
We bring our own through as well though. We have always had a fine blend of home grown youngsters and world class players. City have a team of very good players they have overpaid for and Micah Richards.'"
If Jordan henderson and Andy Carroll cost c£20m and c£35m respectively, then I would say that pretty much all of our signings (certainly not RSC) are very good value.
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| Quote ="Karlos13"
Regarding the rest of your post, people were questioning Beckham/Giggs/Scholes etc when they first broke through. Didn't do too bad though did they?'"
People made those judgements about Beckham etc., before they had even played a full season as a regular. Ashley Cole and Cleverley have hardly set the world alight before this season. Admittedly Cleverley is young but he couldn't get into Wigan's central midfield on a regular basis. He's young but apart from being enthusiatic I don't think he has much in his locker.
I think you will spank Arsenal this weekend but I do feel you may have problems against the more defensive minded teams this season.
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| Quote ="Ordsall Quays Red"Loving the old "Trafford isn't in Manchester" argument put forward by City fans.
As far as I'm aware, the City chant alludes to City being "the only football team TO COME from Manchester" and not "the only football team currently based in the environs of Manchester City Council".
I believe Newton Heath is in Manchester though.'"
I always thought the joke about United was that their ground is like a tourist attraction for non-Mancs on a matchday??....
I've been as guilty as anybody for pushing this particular jibe, but its always quite amusing when Sky Sports News deliberately build on this line of p!$s-taking....Just today, when interviewing 'locals' outside the ground about Danny Welbeck, they managed to find 2 Irishmen and a Scot to wax lyrical about their latest hero...
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| Quote ="Roddy B"The weaknesses he arrived with have now been removed and he's arguably the most complete goalkeeper in Europe.'"
Peach. You should let Del Bosque in on that one Robbie.
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| If we're going down the ludicrous geography route to score points, then how dare Bolton Wanderers call themselves Bolton and how very dare Chelsea call themselves Chelsea??
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| Why would I have any opinions about the location of Chelsea and Bolton?
That's like me asking "why did United fans come up with four different chants about City in the first ten minutes in a game against Spurs?"
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| Quote ="Enfield Exile"Why would I have any opinions about the location of Chelsea and Bolton?
That's like me asking "why did United fans come up with four different chants about City in the first ten minutes in a game against Spurs?"'"
Carlos Tevez is a blue, he hates munichs. First chant when he came on sunday. Swings and roundabouts.
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| Quote ="Mark"Carlos Tevez is a red, he hates munichs. First chant when he came on sunday. Swings and roundabouts.'"
It was actually "a blue". To be honest quite a few of us try to change the last word to "Fergie" but havent had a lot of success. Mind you some City fans are still singing " Fergie, Fergie sign him up ", I'm not sure whether its meant to be irony or just stupidity. Probably a mix of both.
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| Four of the Spanish teams in Europe (València Villarreal, Atlético and Sevilla) are without shirt sponsors, after failing to agree deals. Nine Primera Liga teams will be without revenue from an official shirt sponsor for the coming season, with Malaga actually paying UNESCO for theirs. To give you an idea how bad things are financially in Spain, shirt sponsorship deals (per season) pay between €0.4 and €2m (except top two).
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| Quote ="Enfield Exile"Cleverley have hardly set the world alight before this season. Admittedly Cleverley is young but he couldn't get into Wigan's central midfield on a regular basis.'"
Strange. Sure he played most weeks.
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| Quote ="Conroy"Strange. Sure he played most weeks.'"
And was superb.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Four of the Spanish teams in Europe (València Villarreal, Atlético and Sevilla) are without shirt sponsors, after failing to agree deals. Nine Primera Liga teams will be without revenue from an official shirt sponsor for the coming season, with Malaga actually paying UNESCO for theirs. To give you an idea how bad things are financially in Spain, shirt sponsorship deals (per season) pay between €0.4 and €2m (except top two).'"
I think the oddest football story I've seen this summer was the Ashley Madison, erm, "dating" agency offering €3m a year to sponsor Atlético's shirts - [url=http://www.soccerjerseysclub.com/ashley-madison-future-sponsor-of-atletico-de-madrid/can't find a better link than this right now[/url. Apparently when Atlético turned it down they offered the same to Sevilla, also turned down - the deals included extra payments if players were caught being unfaithful.
Makes for some nice looking football shirts though, I'd snap up the unbranded Atlético shirt if it wasn't for the belly.
edit = Bit more on the Ashley Madison thing and depth in [url=http://www.adifferentleague.co.uk/p6_1_9106_almost-half-of-la-liga-clubs-remain-without-shirt-sponsorship-deals.htmlthis article[/url.
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| Quote ="Roddy B"Why has Joe Hart suddenly been deemed this God amongst insects?'"
Have you got this from the same place that builds Foster up to be a God too
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I find this quite odd, the fact that a City fan is being criticised for thinking his 'keeper is better than Reina eventhough you're doing the same thing just the other way round? Why is it you're ok to think Reina is so good but City fans can't do the same for Hart?
Fan in thinking their players are better than other players shocker, surprised this isn't big on SSN
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