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| Sebastian Vettel pees all over the rest today.
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| The conditions suited the Red Bull car today however the changes they’ve made seem to have given the car serious gains, unless Brawn respond with some further development of their car then the championship could be far from over…..game on!
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| Quote ="changa"icon_wink.gif'"
Webber might actually win one, one of these days. Nah, I doubt it.
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| Quote ="Billy Banter"Webber might actually win one, one of these days. Nah, I doubt it.
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thats a bit harsh there could be a day when everyone is disqualified/crashes out
Nahh he would probably drive into a tyre wall on the last corner
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| I'm not surprised the FIA don't really want to return to Silverstone.
Like a lot of track races it is pretty boring and predictable.
I don't doubt the atmosphere there makes it a special occasion but purely from an entertainment point of view it's time for Silverstone to be dropped by F1.
That's if F1 isn't dropped by the constuctors first of course.
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| Enjoyed the day, we were in Copse Corner...platinum plus seating or something.
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| Quote ="Panda Antics"I'm not surprised the FIA don't really want to return to Silverstone.
Like a lot of track races it is pretty boring and predictable.
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It was a bit of a procession again. There was little movement throughout the field, with a couple of exceptions. The only big mover was Massa.
It's almost as if the real race is on Saturday now, in qualifying.
Meanwhile Hamilton has developed a bad attitude and mentality. It's a shrug of the shoulders and 'What can I do? The car's crap and I'm surrounded by idiots. Can you sort it out while I make another personal appearance.' I don't recall Schumacher settling for a bad car. He made sure that his team were on the case and got their fingers out.
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| Quote ="Billy Banter"It was a bit of a procession again. There was little movement throughout the field, with a couple of exceptions. The only big mover was Massa.
It's almost as if the real race is on Saturday now, in qualifying.
Meanwhile Hamilton has developed a bad attitude and mentality. It's a shrug of the shoulders and 'What can I do? The car's crap and I'm surrounded by idiots. Can you sort it out while I make another personal appearance.' I don't recall Schumacher settling for a bad car. He made sure that his team were on the case and got their fingers out.'"
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| webber is catching up on points . he might win
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| Quote ="changa"webber is catching up on points . he might win
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| Quote ="Billy Banter"I don't recall Schumacher settling for a bad car. '"
I don't recall him having one, certainly not while under Ross Brawn at Ferrari.
With the restrictions on testing mid-season in order to cut costs there's not a lot McLaren can do with the car. As Eddie Jordan said over the weekend, they'd be better off chucking it in the bin and starting again with the 2010 car, it's that bad.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"I don't recall him having one, certainly not while under Ross Brawn at Ferrari.
With the restrictions on testing mid-season in order to cut costs there's not a lot McLaren can do with the car. As Eddie Jordan said over the weekend, they'd be better off chucking it in the bin and starting again with the 2010 car, it's that bad.'"
he may not have had a "bad" car, certianly not to the same level as this years McLaren, I think the first couple of years at Ferrarri he was in a car that was a long way behind the leaders though.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"I don't recall him having one, certainly not while under Ross Brawn at Ferrari.'"
That's because he never let things get that far. Also, any duffage went in the direction of his 'team-mate'.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"I don't recall him having one, certainly not while under Ross Brawn at Ferrari.
With the restrictions on testing mid-season in order to cut costs there's not a lot McLaren can do with the car. As Eddie Jordan said over the weekend, they'd be better off chucking it in the bin and starting again with the 2010 car, it's that bad.'"
His first car at Ferrari was bad to start off with, his performance at Spain in the wet masked a very average car. Of course in those days they had the benefit of in-season testing, so were better placed to sort things out.
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| Compromise reached, and Mosley is off (in October).
Too much money at stake, obviously.
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| Quote ="Billy Banter"Compromise reached, and Mosley is off (in October).
Too much money at stake, obviously.'"
Business as usual then. Thank goodness they've sorted it out.
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| Do people expect a stronger McLaren and Ferrari next year? I don't really know alot about the sport but interested to hear what the more knowledgable posters think. Also does anybdoy own and Brawn GP clothing?
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| Haven't Brawn only just got their merchandise out?
I'd expect McLaren to trash development on this year's car and put all their time and energy into developing for 2010. It worked well for Honda/Brawn this year, so with their resources it's hard to see them not putting it right eventually - same with Ferrari.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Haven't Brawn only just got their merchandise out?
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They've barely branded the car, let alone anything else.
With regard to Ferrari and McClaren it depends what next years 'rules' are. Ferrari won't sit on their laurels, but McClaren must be careful not to go the same way as Williams, who used to dominate.
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| Quote ="Billy Banter"They've barely branded the car, let alone anything else.
With regard to Ferrari and McClaren it depends what next years 'rules' are. Ferrari won't sit on their laurels, but McClaren must be careful not to go the same way as Williams, who used to dominate.'"
Bring back Ron Dennis.
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| Quote ="Billy Banter"They've barely branded the car, let alone anything else.
With regard to Ferrari and McClaren it depends what next years 'rules' are. Ferrari won't sit on their laurels, but McClaren must be careful not to go the same way as Williams, who used to dominate.'"
It's very cyclical though with all of those three teams surviving the era's with periods of total domination and then total stagnation.
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| German Grand Prix
Fri 10 July 2009
Friday Practice 1 09:00 - 10:30
Friday Practice 2 13:00 - 14:30
Sat 11 July 2009
Saturday Practice 10:00 - 11:00
Qualifying 13:00
Sun 12 July 2009
Race 13:00
BTW I don't think we've heard the last of Mr. Mosley yet.
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| Hamilton in decent Friday practice shocker!
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