PMSL. Even your scouse brothers will laugh at that. Not even top 3 in premiership.

Given
Friedel
Cech
VDS
Reina.

In that order.

You know I'm not that biased mate but Reina last season was phenomenal. He had a better season than all 4 that you mention, IMO. I'm happy to say that Gerrard was shat and would critique any other player but Reina was magnificent.

I've nevere understood it with Reina, I've never seen a game and thouygh "he kept them in that" or "if it wasn't for Reina they'd have lost" Granted you watch alot more games than me though.

You get them everywhere mate. I'll take that as a compliment





I'm not trying to claim Hibbert is wonderful by any means but not many wingers will get the better of him. I'll give you he's never been in and around England or had teams coming in for him but that shouldn't really put him in the 'oh he's ' category, defensively he can be very good. I just think as a defender he's better than Young. But I see where you are coming from.



He is mate, he's one of the best prospects we've had for a long time along with Rodwell. He looks like he has the all round game, he can defend as well as any young FB and he doesn't let himself down at the other end of the pitch either. Them few months at Blackpool last season have brough him on leaps and bounds, hopefully he'll get some more games this season too. I'd guess he'll feature in Carling Cup this season too.

Correct. Best in the Premier League, easily.

Coleman does look a very good prospect. I think he'll have learnt a lot from the bumming that Jonas gave him at SJP last season too.

oh aye, back in the PL are we, eh!

17 clean sheets in the PL last season would disagree with you mate. That's almost half the games he has kept a clean sheet. I would bet a lot of them are down to Reina's saves, plus no 'keeper distributes the ball like he does.





I'd go along with that.

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James Milner still ?

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With Ashley's policy, we would have no chance of matching his wages.

Can see us scraping it and staying up.

Off last seasons form, and all considered squad improvements, we still easily have the measure of Blackpool and West Brom, which means we only need to finish above one other team - and as shown last year, there are a lot of poor and very inconsistent teams in the bottom half of the Premier League so I'm confident that come May we will be out of the bottom three. If we can turn St James' into an intimidating fortress that teams don't like playing at, then that could make all the difference.

You've brought this up a few times now but still haven't answered my question about who called him because it certainly wasn't me.

No you didn't but you where less than complimentary about him when he left Newcastle in fact i remember you were laughing the fact you'd got the fee you did for him. He's obviously progressed since he played for you because I take you you where happy to see the back of him at the time???

I reckon we got a good fee at the time. He has certainly continued improving since to justify a larger price tag than we sold him for, but £25-30m is ridiculous.

Like I've already explained numerous times, I laughed at the fee because £12m was too much for him. As much as I liked him at Newcastle, he had some glaring weaknesses. Some of those weaknesses have improved massively at Villa whereas some still remain. I wasn't happy to see the back of him because he was a player I liked, so much so that he was on the back of my away shirt the season before we sold him but £12m was more than he was worth. Villa are wanting £30m for him, that's also laughable because he isn't worth anywhere near that. Half it and it's in the right area. He isn't worth £18m more than we sold him for just under two years ago.

I liked Milner as a player at Newcastle and still like him as a player at Villa. I'm pleased for him that he's ironed out some of the faults in his game whilst at Villa because he always put in the effort for us and never stopped working, hence why he was one of my favourite players.

I think he's still gash, but oh well.

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FWIW I think Marlon King has every right to carry on his career. There's plenty of examples of footballers out there who have been given a second chance, one of them is at Bradford right now. What he did was a disgrace but he shouldn't be thrown on the scrapheap forever for it.

Fantastic.

I'm with you that one, every right to continue his career. He's served his time now, people who come out of prison get back to working and as his career's a footballer he continue to do so.

Given is an excellent shot stopper, one of the best, but as an all round goalkeeper he's lacking. Doesn't command his area very well or take crosses. If he was a bit taller he'd be in the top echelon but he's just under for me. It can't be a coincidence that ever team he plays for leaks goals.

No issue for city of course; for the time being they have the money to buy anyone they want. Expect a bid for Casillas or Buffon in due course.

Given's main attribute when he joined City was that he organised the defense better than Hart. His distribution was also much better.

I think Given is still just about a better all round keeper than Hart but I'd be disappointed to see Hart leave permanently. Ideally from a City perspective Given would keep the job for another season before handing over to Hart. But realistically I think City have to give Hart a chance or let him go.

I'd have let him spend another season at Birmingam. He played exceptionally well, his confidence was high and he clearly showed he'd settled in there. Given is 34, 35 come the start of next season. Hart coming back to City for the start o next season could well see him take the number one shirt from Given and let's face it, having Shay Given as your reserve keepr is quite impressive.

It is, but he's not going to be happy with reserve football at his age. He's probably still capable of holding down a starting role in a premiership team for the next couple of years. Whoever gets the job I'd expect the back up to be putting in a transfer request in January.