They still had Toure and Sagna, half of their first choice. The likes of Song offered no protection at all. In fact, on reflection I feel a bit sorry for them, they were firefighting as a back four.

If Wenger uses that wonderful brain of his and signs a defender in the Hangeland mould, and brings Flamini back from Milan then they will definitely be a force.

To be fair Song was pretty good tonight and has looked like a quality dm recently. It was the back 4 where they struggled.

The past few games we've had to come out and attack, as we've pretty much needed wins every game. No offence to Carra, but he's a much better defender when defending deep in his own box, when we're chasing games and things are open, he struggles and it doesn't help when we have full backs who like to bomb forward, but don't really have the athleticism to get back quick enough.

Basically, we've chased games more, left more space for sides to attack and not been quick enough to react. Where was Skrtel tonight?

What would be hilarious is after the season long duel between united and liverpool, chelsea snuck in and clinched a treble from under their noses, league, fa cup and cl.

I don't mind Song but I just don't think he's top quality, he's good but Flamini was immense and was an absolute engine in midfield. Song, as good as he is, isn't that good.

It wouldn't! We all know it would be like the ultimate wet dream for a certain Chelsea supporter on here

It's very very unlikley.

A solitary fa cup win, united winning the league by 4 points and barca winning the cl is the most likely scenario.

And another thing. If Fabregas concentrated more on his game, than being a whiney little bitch he would be far more effective.

I think it's quite clear that having no Flamini, Hleb or Rosicky has affected Cesc's game. I'm not saying they were better than him, but they played to his strength's more and they were all experienced players. I think Cesc's struggled with the added responsibility this year.

I see what you are saying, but he is still a minge.

Which season long duel was this? Chelsea were never out of the top 2 until the 21st game of the season.

that long ago?

Yeah, he's a right tart, but to be honest, I struggle to think of many top player who fans don't hate, or at least dislike.

I'm pretty sure SKY done a poll a few months back and Torres was voted the premier league's favourite player, with Gerrard voted second, and they have their fair share of haters.

Only because man united had x amount of games in hand.

Everyone could see chelsea were floundering around under scolari and as soon as united caught up on games it'd be them and liverpool.

Is anyone else sick of hearing these bollockchops from Sky harping on how wonderful the Premiership is and how it can provide games like no other league. Martin 'Dull' Tyler is even getting in on the act.

Are you suggesting that they have 4-4 draws in other leagues?

Ludicrous.

tonight wasnt the norm sadly. madrid have just come from behind to beat getafe 3-2 with a last minute winner. watching the spanish league every week i can honestly say there are just as many good games as the prem.

If Chelsea make the right appointment, they could be very strong next season. It's very much open to debate, but, if Mourinho was still there he would have ed the league this season.

Shush. That won't do the propaganda machine any good.

I tend to agree.

They'd have built up a huge lead when united were at the WCC and it would have been too much for them to pull back.

Gerrard definitely but Torres? I don't think that many "hate" him at all. His club, his annoying habit of scoring vital goals for them, but as a player? He is more in the begrudging respect category.

Just got in unreal match had a feeling it wasn't going to be a bore fest, defence let us down big time but had this game down as a draw for awhile now had it on the bbc thingy aswell so for me we needed to win tonight to win the prem unless man u throw it away, real shame we didnt get the result as it would of been a perfect night with Kop in fine form with all its sights, sounds and humour, maybe the late goal might win it for us you never know I certainly thought nal had done another 89 on us befoe that went in.

The kop seemed quiet from 70 mins onwards, although did hear YNWA in injury time.

Nick Hornby?