Brady was a late draft pick so that doesn't prove whose the better QB.The Patriots only wanted a 2nd round pick so they didn't have to pay another 1st round draft pick,you keep calling McDaniels an idiot but don't you think he wouldn't have been given the OC job at the Patriots unless he knew what he was doing.

Fair point about Brady but my point was if Cassell is so highly rated why didn't more people go in for him. The Patriots could easily have got a first rounder (at any stage in the first round) and then traded out for players (Julius Peppers) or traded for multiple picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. The fact is there wasn't the demand for Cassell so evidently teams like Chicago, Tampa, NYJ who need a QB didn't think he was worth any higher than the 34th pick. Cutler however would definately command potentially multiple first round picks.

I'm not quetioning his credentials as an OC but there is a world of difference between an OC and head coach. I think he will be out of Denver in under 2 years. He, evidently, doesn't have the people skills to deal with an entire team. Also there are examples of people that have excelled with Bellichek (spelt wrong?) and then gone on to be poor coaches. Eric Mangini, Charlie Weis, Romeo Crenell. I'm willing to bet before long McDaniels will be in that group.

I don't like the Broncos, and despise Jay Cutler so I'm quite enjoying this circus in Denver. Cutlers opinion of himself is way higher than it should be. He believes the hype - when he was getting praised last season from all angles his form dipped and he blamed other people. Denver love him, and you can see why, he's a very talented player, but his ego has grown beyond belief.

Yes, McDaniels should've handled the situation better, but you would think that Cutler - this franchise QB we all speak of - would've handled things in a more mature manner.

I want him to go to the Lions - imagine the people he can blame for his losing record there. The dream would be Buffalo though - Cutler + T.O = b*tch fest!

199th pick - 6th round IIRC.

and New England have got 11 draft picks this year 9 of em in the top 200

I still find it amazing just how many of these players who are obviously talented and are paid a hell of a lot of money end up in so much trouble or even in jail like this idiot

Preseason games anounced today www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d ... nfirm=true

Preseason games anounced today www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d ... nfirm=true

Titans vs. Cowboys on my birthday looks good and I hope Sky show it live.

The Bronco's are now actively trying to trade Cutler. I hope he doesn't go to Clevland, I like Brady Quinn and don't want to see him in Denver. It does seem the best deal for them though.

I was looking forward to seeing Merriman pound the little cry baby this season, hopefully it can still happen at his new team!!

If they are trying to actively trade him then i still think Tampa is the best place and most likely. They will want him out of the division.

It depends who they want to replace Cutler really.

I would not be surprised to see him go to Seattle for Hasselbeck and a swap of first rounders, then the Broncos can get Hasselbeck to groom their next QB of the future as well.

I said Cutler was a cry baby at the start of all this and now the fact that he won't return phone calls to not just McDaniels but to the owner Pat Bowlen just show that I was correct and I pity the team that trades for the fool.

Clever stuff by Jay. Don't respond to them and hurry the situation up.

If we didn't have A-Rod i'd give anything to get Jay Cutler. As it is A-Rod is better.

Only just

and only because he learned for years behind Favre as opposed to 6 games behind plummer for cutler

I'd take Rodgers over Cutler any day of the week. Cutler is bad news. The hype got him into the pro bowl last year. What was it, 18 interceptions? I'd pass on that, thanks.

The organisation have put themselves behind the balck ball a bit now. Teams know they need to trade, so the value automatically goes down. The one thing in the Broncs favour is the fact that their are likely 4 or 5 teams (at least) interested, so that will push the value back up a bit. The best case for them now is the Browns 1st round pick and Brady Quinn. If they get that (or anywhere near it) they have played a blinder.

Definately. A-Rod might not yet be at the same level as Cutler but he is definately showing signs he can be an elite player and was, coming out of college, touted as a number one overall pick. I bet San Fran wish they had taken A-Rod over Smith. Don't get me wrong i'd definately rather have A-Rod but i'm a big Cutler fan.



The pro-bowl is worthless anyway. So many players get picked who don't deserve it.

Yep 18 interceptions which is second highest only to Favre with 22. He did have the fourth highest yards though i think.





Apparently 8-10 teams interested.

I agree, if they want a QB in return then the Browns provide the best value with Quinn but surely they would want more than Quinn and the 5th. I'd expect Quinn, 5th overall pick and next years 1st round pick.

In terms of overall though, i still maintain Tampa is the best place. They get a mid to late round pick this year, a player and next years first round. I doubt they want to be lumbered with the 5th overall and 12th overall in terms of the amount it would cost for contracts.

Isaac Bruce is gonna play another saeson with the 49ers after all.

I think this could be because they are possibly going to try and sign Tory Holt

I think its because Singletary is off his rocker

Bruce is what 97 years old now? Big gamble.

The recievers they have is irrelevant considering they don't have anybody to throw the ball to them.

Wow.

Jay Cutler will still be wearing Blue and Orange next year
In the Windy city.


According to Jay Glazer the deal is two first-round picks, a third-round pick, and Kyle Orton to the Broncos for quarterback Jay Cutler and a fifth-round draft pick.

Wow.

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Quote ="Schrödinger's Cat"Wow. Jay Cutler will still be wearing Blue and Orange next year In the Windy city. According to Jay Glazer the deal is two first-round picks, a third-round pick, and Kyle Orton to the Broncos for quarterback Jay Cutler and a fifth-round draft pick. Wow. '" Just about to post this. www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?i ... oryID=8930

I don't believe it,after all the things i've said about him i've now got to cheer for him

What the Bears have given up is too much,we've not got anybody for him to throw to unless Hester breaks out into a top class reciever this year.The Bears also signed Orlando Pace today to help the O line which needs a lot of help.

Sunday August 30 in Denver preseason game

Broncos v Bears
What's the betting Cutler doesn't play in that game

DAR, as soon as I saw that I had a chuckle to myself! You ust be gutted!



I think the Bears given too much, but that's just me. I think that Orton will run the Denver offense to a reasonable level this season, and they can use the draft to improve the defence.