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| On a serious note I'd like to hear the views of Liverpool fans r.e Alonso, it seems he's always linked with a move away from Anfield whcih is something I find hard to understand as he has forged a wonderful partnership with zippy, with all our midfielders being happy who could you realistically get to replace him?
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"Oh well, he's acted like a knob in one game, best put him on the same level as Carragher then.'"
If it's the Taylor I'm thinking of he's one of the biggest cheats and snide players in the league - see his antics against Sunderland at St James'. Not necessarily a criticism, every team needs a bit of mongrel.
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| Liverpool FC have re-arranged their end of season dinner at short notice, its being held tomorrow night. Menu as follows;
starter - sour grapes.
main meal - plaice (might be 3rd)
pudding - selections from pennant, lucas and arbeloa followed by hard cheese and biscuits.
Drinks will be available but there will be no doubles, trebles or carling prem. There will also be a selection of wines served by a fat spanish waiter.
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| Mad stat. Over the whole course of English football league history Man United have never been ahead of LFC in total titles won but have equalled them many times. Whatever number of titles LFC were able to win before a United title win, United always won the same enabling them to equal the record, never more never less.
1901 Liverpool
1906 Liverpool
1908 Manchester United
1911 Manchester United
1922 Liverpool
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1947 Liverpool
1952 Manchester United
1956 Manchester United
1957 Manchester United
1964 Liverpool
1965 Manchester United
1966 Liverpool
1967 Manchester United
1973 Liverpool
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1977 Liverpool
1979 Liverpool
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1988 Liverpool
1990 Liverpool
1993 Manchester United
1994 Manchester United
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1999 Manchester United
2000 Manchester United
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| Quote ="Wayne Rooney"On a serious note I'd like to hear the views of Liverpool fans r.e Alonso, it seems he's always linked with a move away from Anfield whcih is something I find hard to understand as he has forged a wonderful partnership with zippy, with all our midfielders being happy who could you realistically get to replace him?'"
His agent and Rafa has said he's not going. I prefer to deal with the facts
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| Quote ="Ski"Liverpool FC have re-arranged their end of season dinner at short notice, its being held tomorrow night. Menu as follows;
starter - sour grapes.
main meal - plaice (might be 3rd)
pudding - selections from pennant, lucas and arbeloa followed by hard cheese and biscuits.
Drinks will be available but there will be no doubles, trebles or carling prem. There will also be a selection of wines served by a fat spanish waiter.'"
like this post
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"What does that have to do with Jamie Carragher?
It was so obvious you wouldn't reply to what I actually wrote because, to be quite honest, you don't have a clue what to say.
Sinking to your level, did you enjoy your two cup final victories this season? Even your fellow supporters think you're a joke.'"
ok then kreskin lets point out the obvious shall we!
you support a joke of a team who contain arguably the biggest tool and thug in professional football, and you have the gall to cast aspersions about jamie carragher!
can you tell me when carra was jailed for beating a 16 year old senseless in the street?
can you tell me when carra viciously assaulted one of his team mates in training?
can you tell me how many times carra has been sent off in his career?
perhaps you would love to compare the answers to those questions with the lovable joey barton's career!!!
keep dreaming ash it's you who are the joke on this forum!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Wayne Rooney"I know, like a LFC season ticket holder on here.
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you mean like me la????????
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| Quote ="faxtastic"hull city-going down too thank god can think of more than 1 player in there squad that is actually good enough for the premiership apart from geovanni they are just a bunch of championship and league 1 players that had a good start to the season and even if they do get lucky and stay up i can personally guarentee they will go down next season they just are not good enough.'"
You seem very sure on this one.
Quote ="Fingerposts Finest"you mean like me la????????'"
Yeah like you
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"From what I remember, Carragher had to charge down a shot to stop a good goal scoring opportunity for West Brom. He felt that the player should've been marked by someone else, so he had a right go at that player for not doing his job.
The other player argued back and they pushed each other. Another player came in, a little more shaving and that was it.
Hardly compares with the challenge on Alonso that got Barton banned, does it?
I don't like Liverpool. They're the club I detest most in football. I'd have loved it if Carragher had gone and done something stupid at the weekend. But seeing that incident I was disappointed. It was nothing. It was just a passionate dispute between team-mates which would've been forgotten about completely if it wasn't for supporters and the media making a mountain out of a molehill, as they sadly do with so many incidents nowadays.'"
absolutely spot on, the amount of times team mates have on field arguments is far more common than it is made out to be. who can forget the batty, le soux and bowyer, dyer spats? and only this season ricardo fuller punched one of his tam mates, but i suppose that pales into insignificance with the carragher-arbeloa disagreement.........according to some clowns on this forum!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Wayne Rooney"On a serious note I'd like to hear the views of Liverpool fans r.e Alonso, it seems he's always linked with a move away from Anfield whcih is something I find hard to understand as he has forged a wonderful partnership with zippy, with all our midfielders being happy who could you realistically get to replace him?'"
Obviously I don't want Alonso to leave. However if we get offered £21 million for him and can replace him with Barry for £8 million as is being reported, I would be tempted. I'm not saying Barry is better than Alonso, however I don't think there is £13 million differential between their talents and anything over a £10 million difference in price would make me interested. That's £10 million to go towards another striker or a wide player. If it was purely for playing skills etc, I wouldn't get rid of him, ever. We have to look at the fact that the owners aren't willing to go overboard with available funds and if we can produce some of our own for swapping one player for antoher who is only slightly less talented then it could be worth it.
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| Quote ="Sthelens RLFC"Obviously I don't want Alonso to leave. However if we get offered £21 million for him and can replace him with Barry for £8 million as is being reported, I would be tempted. I'm not saying Barry is better than Alonso, however I don't think there is £13 million differential between their talents and anything over a £10 million difference in price would make me interested. That's £10 million to go towards another striker or a wide player. If it was purely for playing skills etc, I wouldn't get rid of him, ever. We have to look at the fact that the owners aren't willing to go overboard with available funds and if we can produce some of our own for swapping one player for antoher who is only slightly less talented then it could be worth it.'"
Spot on in my opinion.
Alonso's had a brilliant season, but as you say, there isn't £13million between the two players.
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| Quote ="Fingerposts Finest"ok then kreskin lets point out the obvious shall we!
you support a joke of a team who contain arguably the biggest tool and thug in professional football, and you have the gall to cast aspersions about jamie carragher!
can you tell me when carra was jailed for beating a 16 year old senseless in the street?
can you tell me when carra viciously assaulted one of his team mates in training?
can you tell me how many times carra has been sent off in his career?
perhaps you would love to compare the answers to those questions with the lovable joey barton's career!!!
keep dreaming ash it's you who are the joke on this forum!!!!!!!!!!'"
Who brought Barton into it? Everybody knows that he's a c*nt.
If Carragher wasn't scouse, you wouldn't even be defending him. That reminds me actually, where is Barton from again?
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| Quote ="Sthelens RLFC"Obviously I don't want Alonso to leave. However if we get offered £21 million for him and can replace him with Barry for £8 million as is being reported, I would be tempted. I'm not saying Barry is better than Alonso, however I don't think there is £13 million differential between their talents and anything over a £10 million difference in price would make me interested. That's £10 million to go towards another striker or a wide player. If it was purely for playing skills etc, I wouldn't get rid of him, ever. We have to look at the fact that the owners aren't willing to go overboard with available funds and if we can produce some of our own for swapping one player for antoher who is only slightly less talented then it could be worth it.'"
i'd be suprised if those two figures quoted where true, however, even with those two figures I still wouldn't be tempted to sell Alonso and replace him with Barry, big backward step for Liverpool (so i say go for it )
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"Who brought Barton into it? Everybody knows that he's a c*nt.
If Carragher wasn't scouse, you wouldn't even be defending him. That reminds me actually, where is Barton from again?
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| Quote ="Ski"You can take the scum out the slum...'"
So why did a lad from near Wigan decide to support a rugby league team from Merseyside? Hmmm.....
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| Quote ="Sthelens RLFC"So why did a lad from near Wigan decide to support a rugby league team from Merseyside? Hmmm.....'"
Fate decided for me in 91
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| Quote ="Sthelens RLFC"Obviously I don't want Alonso to leave. However if we get offered £21 million for him and can replace him with Barry for £8 million as is being reported, I would be tempted. I'm not saying Barry is better than Alonso, however I don't think there is £13 million differential between their talents and anything over a £10 million difference in price would make me interested. That's £10 million to go towards another striker or a wide player. If it was purely for playing skills etc, I wouldn't get rid of him, ever. We have to look at the fact that the owners aren't willing to go overboard with available funds and if we can produce some of our own for swapping one player for antoher who is only slightly less talented then it could be worth it.'"
But that's not going to happen though, is it? No-one is going to pay £21 million for Alonso and I can't see Villa dropping their price for Barry by about £7million (Keith can confirm the precise amounts).
More realistic is keeping Alonso and just buying Barry as well. However if I was Benitez I'd probably sign another striker ahead of Barry.*
*I'd also shave my goatee off and stop talking crap as well if I was Benitez.
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| Quote ="Ian [77"But that's not going to happen though, is it? No-one is going to pay £21 million for Alonso and I can't see Villa dropping their price for Barry by about £7million (Keith can confirm the precise amounts).
More realistic is keeping Alonso and just buying Barry as well. However if I was Benitez I'd probably sign another striker ahead of Barry.*
*I'd also shave my goatee off and stop talking crap as well if I was Benitez.'"
rumour going round it's felt tip pen
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| Quote ="Dan_FC"You seem very sure on this one.
Yeah like you
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i am very sure about this one. non of hull's players are good enough whats the best they have up front manucho and he is only on loan
midfeild ian ashbee what a player would do well in league 1 that about it
defence michael turner everyone aving about him at ths tart he has shown his true colours.
they just are not good enough
you can see where newcsatle can get there goals from to stay up martins and co
i just cant see who can score for hull.
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| Quote ="Ian [77"But that's not going to happen though, is it? No-one is going to pay £21 million for Alonso and I can't see Villa dropping their price for Barry by about £7million (Keith can confirm the precise amounts).
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I don't know mate. If City and Madrid are the bidders then I can see it going up to that figure. I've no idea on Barry, I'm using papertalk to be honest. However, if it's £10 million difference, like I said, I'd be interested.
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| Quote ="Ian [77"
More realistic is keeping Alonso and just buying Barry as well. However if I was Benitez I'd probably sign another striker ahead of Barry.*
*I'd also shave my goatee off and stop talking crap as well if I was Benitez.'"
Didn't mean to put my reply in two parts, but didn't read this bit initially.
I agree. His beard is sh[size=9.[/sizeit. Oh, I also agree about not bothering with a midfielder. I would prefer to stick with the same centre midfield we have now and sign other wingers and a striker but if money needs to be raised, I'd let Alonso go so long as we get a ripper of a deal.
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| Quote ="Sthelens RLFC"I don't know mate. If City and Madrid are the bidders then I can see it going up to that figure. I've no idea on Barry, I'm using papertalk to be honest. However, if it's £10 million difference, like I said, I'd be interested.'"
I suppose city might be that stupid - I'll give you this, if Bellamy is worth £14 million then Alonso is worth £21 million. I can't see Madrid stumping that amount of cash.
Alonso is an excellent player and better than Barry. I understand what you mean about the 'additional' 10 million but unless someone bonkers does offer that, I'd keep him and sack Barry off.
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