Frank Lampard - Premiership Class, European Class...
[uNOT[/u WORLD CLASS Never performed to his highest ability and done himslef justice on the International stage where the "Elite" players step upto the plate...

Hull City have completed the £3million signing of Seyi Olofinjana from Stoke City and agreed a loan deal for Jozy Altidore

The rest of the premiership are quaking in their boots





I will go on record now as predicting they will finish bottom of the premiership with a record low points total. That is all.

i agree 100% there making no good signings and have a 5m player that wont play long at hull at all

As much as I hate all things Chelsea I am willing to accept Lampard is a good premiership player but, like you, I just dont get the hype about him being World Class? Maybe it is my irrational hatred of all things Chelsea that is blinding me but even then I can admit they do have World Class players at the club, just not Lampard (or Terry for that matter). Maybe one day my hatred for all things Chelsea will subside and I will be able to assess his talents in a different light. Did I mention I hate Chelsea by the way?

You overrate international football. The past few tournaments have been of very low quality. If you think playing 10 games a year for England means more than 50 games a year for Chelsea, you're barmy



Lampard's a 20 goals, 20 assists a year player, there are hardly any players in world football who produce the good like Frank every year.

I'm sure our resident Chelsea fan will agree with me here, but Lampard last year was the driving force behind Chelsea in both the league and CL. He's just a quality player. Even for England I think he's been harshly criticized. Didn't get the English fans' player of the year once? When you've been managed by spineless managers like Sven and McLaren, who just threw all the top players in there without any balance, then you're bound to struggle, but he'd played well under Capello, really well.

That is all that matters. He has been Chelsea's most important player for 5 years at least. They won two League titles, reached a European Cup final and won numerous domestic Cups. The fact that he plays so well, consistently for one of England and Europe's top sides proves how world class he is.



OK then, see also Cristiano Ronaldo, Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerrard, Rio Ferdinand to name just a few.

International football is awful. If a player can play so well so consistently for a top club side in Europe is enough to be deemed World Class.

Probably, but he's had a couple of good games in pre-season, nothing more. He's still got a lot to learn, and there is plenty of room for improvement, but he is at the best place for this to happen.

If he can continue to take players on and get decent balls into the box like last night, then Berbatov, Rooney, Owen, me and others will be pleased because we will score goals. If Tosic can do the same on the left, we will finally have two wingers who can cross a ball for the first time in fooking ages.



In some ways it could be a blessing in disguise. IMO Tommy K is not good enough to be a goalkeeper for Manchester United, Foster has potential, but hasn't had the chance to show it on a regular basis.

This gives Foster two months at the beginning of the season (when historically we are never at our best) to get a decent run in the side and stake a claim to be our number one.

On the other hand, it gives Fergie a chance to see if he can replace VDS, if not, we have the January window to get a replacement in, because I feel this is VDS' last season as a player.

Has keithcun been banned on here or something? Not seen a comment from him for months, not even on DTTW.

What you said, agree 100%.

Wow, for a second there i thought you'd been attending night classes.......



......then i realised you just C&P'd it. Silly me!

Like Gerrard does?

Robbo - Lampard is world class.

Who ever said Steven Gerrard does you tool...


World Class is a very overrated word...

I think Cristiano Ronaldo & Wayne Rooney being in [i(Euro 2004 Team of the Tournament)[/i means that they have both performed to a high level on the International Stage...

What, where the team of world class players, Greece, won the tournament?

So what makes a player "World Class"?, No team in the World are full of "World Class" players...

Sky Sports pundits.

Gerrard doesn't perform on the International stage, not anywhere near his level of performance for Liverpool anyway. Does that mean he isn't world class?

Barcelona are according to, well, everybody.

What makes a player world class? He has to have a PL winners medal to be world class



For me, a player to be considered world class has to be one of the best in his position, he has to perform consistently in the best competitions at club level. International football is a bonus, but matters little when compared to a club season, and I'd probably say international football is of a lower standard than CL/League football.

Lampard probably doesn't get the recognition he deserves because he plays for Chelsea. Seems strange, but if he was scoring 20 goals and getting 20 assists a season for United/Barcelona, he'd be much more popular and held in higher regard in general. Just go back and watch the past five years or whatever of Lampard at Chelsea, it's mad to believe how consistent he's been.

Barcelona have "World Class" players in Lionel Messi, Thierry Henry and Xavi for example but the whole team isn't full of "World Class" players...
I agree Frank Lampard is a Fantastic and Consistent player there is no doubting that and i do agree that is isn't given enough credit for which he does year in year out in the Premiership but i use the term "World Class" sparingly and for me Frank Lampard doesn't fit into that catergory, Each to their own i suppose!, The word would be a boring place if we all had the same opinion...

agreed, they had silvinho and gudjohnsen playing for them last season

Habib Beye set to join too.

Vidic out for two weeks so step up Evans.

Rumour is Aquilani is having problems with his medical can't say I would be shocked if this deal fell through.

i see that hull city fans will finally see a real life finjana

Celtic v Arsenal in CL