Champions league final..check
FA Cup final......check
League cup final......check
Champions League quarter final...check
Last game against Wigan..title decider, also scored 2 in previous game against West Ham....check
Important games against Liverpool and Arsenal at OT last season...check

Do you practice?

Fella, Dirk Kuyt is high in the ratings so I won't even bother to consider them.

TBH many of the stats used in football mean very little (apart from goals scored and conceded, of course). For example, we once played West Brom and had something like 12 corners, with several shots on target and off target. We co,mpletely dominated possession and the ball must have been in their half for 80% of the game. They didn't have a shot on or off target, and they didn't even win a corner. West Brom won 1-0 because of an own-goal.

Against Milan....check
City / United derbies....check
Most of his appearances in the knockout stages in Europe....check
Vast majority of games against Chelsea......check

Biased?



If I am biased, how can you explain the compliments I have made about Ferdinand and Berbatov?

I'm guessing assists stats mean nothing, then?

I don't know you, so I don't if your football bias strecthes across all footballing topics. What I do know, is that where "Robbie" is concerned, nobody can tell you anything.

He's a World Class Winger, and suggestions that Ribery & Young are better than him 'As left Wingers' are laughable. (Even when the stats tell you otherwise)

Ashley Young has over 20 assists in the last season & a half, not bad eh. Think about how good he'll be when he learns any tricks. Wowsa.

Part of my job involves me analysing statistics. I am fully aware of what stats can and cannot do. The best way to looks at stats is to acknowledge their limitations.

But I made a point on Young being one of the most productive players, using a stat showing how productive he is, fair point backed up by a fair stat, no?

I suppose scoring more than half of yr goals in home games against Portsmouth, Stoke and Hull is classed as shining in the big games isnt it??

And against the 2 best teams in the league at home? Erm, 0 goals...how did that happen if he's saving himself for the big games??

Examples of bias:

1. Michael Johnson to become the mainstay of England's central midfield for a decade.

2. Micah Richards to displace Gary Neville as England's right back as he is already better than him.

3. Joe Hart to become England's long term goalkeeper.

Erm, Ronnie scored against Meelan in the 2007 semi-final and was one of the stand out performers that night? Granted his performance in the second leg was poor, but so was the rest of the team and Milan deserved the win.

He also scored in arguable the biggest game we've played Chelsea in (Champions League final).

All very interesting....



You are the [erson who claimed to have watched Robson since he was a boy.

No. I have an opinion, and will stand by it. As I stated yesterday - on this thread - I have a view / opinion, call it what you want, but I am not stating it as a fact / truth. Please concentrate.

What do you want, a debate on epistemology?




Robihno is a better winger, and overall a better footballer. Ashjley Young is better than Robihno at crossing but then Robbie is a far, far, far better passer of the ball, which more than makes up for this. RE all other abilities: Robson is better.



Rather than quote the stats at me, please advise me of the methodology, otherwise the stats mean nothing. What is an assist? Does an assist also not not depend on the skill of the player receiving the ball? Does this include own goals? Are the figures subject to QA? What QA do they use? What are the discrepancies between the stats produced by this organisation and the figures produced by another firm?

I refuse to debate the validity of statistic or set of statistics with someone who is not intelligent enough to keep up.

C'mon, fella. He was outshone by the second best player in the world, behind Messi.



TBH I never watched that game so you could have told me that Anderson had a shot on target and I would have to believe it as true.

You missed his superb penalty, then? Shame.

He could if he dropped his habits. people far more knowledgeable than you and I, have made that claim.

The lad has a lot more talent than Anderson



Richards, even at his worst (which has been too often since he became Mr Universe) is better than Neville. What's Neville skill set? Great at being 'solid'? Professional plastic manc?



If only he was as good as Ben Foster and Heaton (worst international goalkeeper ever to wear an international shirt?).

Joe Hart will become England's klong-term goalkeeper. I am convinced. Capello rates his very highly, as does Sven. He just needs a bit of experience as his weaknesses are those that are the kind of things that only expereinced GKs have - strong communication and organisational skills, and dimination of the box and 1-on-1 situations. Behind James, he's the best English keeper.

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That one about Anderson, tis a cracker. And you say we blindly big up the English?

Yet one is always pi$$ed and the other played a big part in Manchester United winning the league and European Cup.



Neville has been very good in recent weeks. Much better than the bits of Richards that I've seen lately. However, when on form I'd take Richards.



James has been awful lately. Green has looked much better in recent weeks, coincidentally coming during West Ham's good run.

I'd probably say that Hart is the best English keeper ATM, not that it is anything amazing to shout about when Scott Carson is around and getting selected.

It's a bad situation really, you look at the 90's when Seaman was No'1, we had Martyn, Flowers, Walker etc. Plenty of decent options.

James isn't an International Number 1, he's their by default really, that's no fault of his own mind, Robert Green looks to be the next best. I'd laso say when I watched Blackburn against Stoke, I think it was early in Big Sams reign, they won 3-0 but got battered, Robinson looked to be getting back some form, I noticed Big Sam bigging him the other day too.

Hart will have a problem now, he'll face Ben Foster syndrome, it's hard not playing. Ben Foster looked to be destined to be England No'1 when at Watford, but not playing is a big problem, and Hart is behind arguably the best keeper in The Premiership. He needs to do a Tim Howard, and go somewhere for regular first team football.

Considering Man City supposedly have so many world beaters and future england mainstays, you'd think they'd be doing better in the league.

This isnt the point. You asked for a link to the assist table, you were provided with one, then moved the goal posts because you were shown up the crap troll you really are.

www.sporthull.co.uk/football/hul ... dercomment So Capello is finally watching him, great to see we could have 2 players in the England squad in the very near future Shows how far weve come in the last 5 years and Turner has come so far aswell was only 3 years ago he was playing in League 2 with Brentford

www.sporthull.co.uk/football/hul ... dercomment So Capello is finally watching him, great to see we could have 2 players in the England squad in the very near future Shows how far weve come in the last 5 years and Turner has come so far aswell was only 3 years ago he was playing in League 2 with Brentford

Hang on. The figures that gave impression that Kuyt is the best winger, actually referred to actim stats rather than assists.

We have weaknesses. More than top teams.Regardless, are you saying that the team with the better players finish above all other teams. Are you not aware of the history of United or Real?