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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"Apparently Brady claimed in her latest column that "I know more about the offside law than perhaps a girl should." So is Brady also a sexist?
Sure I read that she wants equality in the workplace yet 75% of staff she hires are women. I expect Gray and Keys to apologise over the next couple of days and be back in place for this weekends Super Sunday.'"
Brady borders on sexism herself
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| Quote ="McClennan"I would say that you're out of touch there pal in a pretty big way. You may think it but to suggest that a woman can't call an offside decision because of her gender is just ridiculous. Good article [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9371621.stmhere[/url.'"
I haven't read the article. I will do in a sec. The comment was a little rushed.
Anyway, I'd clarify that I don't actually think that 99% of people would think that, but a very high % would talk smack like that. But the fact is, Keys and Gray probably spend half their time talking smack about everyone in the game off mic. On camera they'll say neutral things about a player because Sky would fire them if they started offending players en masse, but off camera they'll be wondering how the player has managed to steal a living. Their view on refs will be universally bad. Nobody likes refs and they are a target for abuse throughout football.
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| Just as an aside, how far will this whole 'females in football' actually go??.....How long before we have a talented girl demanding to play in a male professional side and taking the whole thing to court?
We've already had cases at junior level, which have caused upset and which the media have latched onto, so imagine the furore if/when it happens at adult professional level?
I imagine, legally, a court would side with the lady?.....
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| Quote ="mutt1"Nani was again poor. It's all well and good doing 27 step overs and beating three or four player but it means nothing when the final ball is so poor
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Just as an aside, how far will this whole 'females in football' actually go??.....How long before we have a talented girl demanding to play in a male professional side and taking the whole thing to court?
We've already had cases at junior level, which have caused upset and which the media have latched onto, so imagine the furore if/when it happens at adult professional level?
I imagine, legally, a court would side with the lady?.....'"
Happened in Golf didn't it IIRC?
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| Quote ="100% Wire"Happened in Golf didn't it IIRC?'"
Michelle Wii had a few games on the Men's tour I think.
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| Quote ="100% Wire"Happened in Golf didn't it IIRC?'"
Horse racing, Motor Racing, Snooker (I think?).......Just to name a few.
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| all the really interesting stuff tends to be when the mics are meant to be off.
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| Quote ="flipper"all the really interesting stuff tends to be when the mics are meant to be off.'"
Been a few belters in Spanish politics in the past few months.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Been a few belters in Spanish politics in the past few months.'"
well it's the same as Gordon Brown and 'that bigoted woman' or whatever he called her
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Just as an aside, how far will this whole 'females in football' actually go??.....How long before we have a talented girl demanding to play in a male professional side and taking the whole thing to court?
We've already had cases at junior level, which have caused upset and which the media have latched onto, so imagine the furore if/when it happens at adult professional level?
I imagine, legally, a court would side with the lady?.....'"
Collymore has been talking about the exact thing on Talksport tonight and i do think that the time will come when a talented female footballer will want to play in the mens game. But if that was allowed to happen and a precident was set what would stop a lesser tallented male player wanting to move into the female side of the game?
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| Anyone else think the lineswoman's call was just a lucky guess?
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| Quote ="mutt1"Collymore has been talking about the exact thing on Talksport tonight and i do think that the time will come when a talented female footballer will want to play in the mens game. But if that was allowed to happen and a precident was set what would stop a lesser tallented male player wanting to move into the female side of the game?'"
That shows how stupid Collymore is then. Mind you, he's not beyond even a bit of woman-slapping is he? So that's no wonder
Selection as part of a team sport like soccer is, always has been and always will be subjective and providing there's no obvious gender discrimination, as "well you're good love but you're a bird", then any action would probably fail.
Individual performances are more able to be measured objectively, so sports like golf or horse racing would be on a sticky wicket
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| Quote ="mutt1"Collymore has been talking about the exact thing on Talksport tonight and i do think that the time will come when a talented female footballer will want to play in the mens game. But if that was allowed to happen and a precident was set what would stop a lesser tallented male player wanting to move into the female side of the game?'"
Thats the thing. If you remove sex as a barrier to sport once, you have to do it twice. It would kill the female version of the game. They can't have it both ways.
There will eventually as you mention be a freak female footballer who could easily play professionally in the man's game and deserve it. Like you say, what happens then? I can imagine the world falling off it's axis.
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| Quote ="worthing wire"Anyone else think the lineswoman's call was just a lucky guess?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Thats the thing. If you remove sex as a barrier to sport once, you have to do it twice. It would kill the female version of the game. They can't have it both ways.
There will eventually as you mention be a freak female footballer who could easily play professionally in the man's game and deserve it. Like you say, what happens then? I can imagine the world falling off it's axis.'"
Imagine if such a thing happened in athletics, say.
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| It'll be interesting to see what Sky do. Rodney Marsh was sacked by them for making a tasteless joke about Newcastle United and the tsunami, rather than slagging off a match official.
I suspect that there will be some double standards, Keys and Gray will apologise on air and in person, and they will be able to carry on farting around with squares of astroturf, shouting MNF and fiddling with a glorified air hockey table.
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| Chelsea seem to be cruising against Bolton, seems they're out of that bad spell of form and could put alot of good performances and posistive results behind them now.
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| Quote ="worthing wire"Imagine if such a thing happened in athletics, say.
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Are you being deliberately thick or have you some sort of perverted stereotype you feel needs promoting?
Either way, you are a very stupid and shallow boy. Go to bed
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| Lighten up you old fart.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"But the fact is, Keys and Gray probably spend half their time talking smack about everyone in the game off mic. On camera they'll say neutral things about a player because Sky would fire them if they started offending players en masse, but off camera they'll be wondering how the player has managed to steal a living. '"
You're probably right, which is all the more reason why they should never be seen and heard on television again. That pair have been stealing a living for many years, especially Keys, who has never contributed anything useful to the game as far as I am aware.
Imagine if the assistant with the flag had been an Asian man and they'd come out with a load of crap about Asians not understanding football, should stick to cricket or hockey etc.? They'd already be out of a job by now, and I don't really see any difference with slagging off Sian Massey. She must be bloody good to get on the Premiership list at the age of 25. She will have refereed semi-pro non-league matches for several seasons, been marked by club officials at every match, been assessed regularly by retired former top level referees, and will have achieved significantly higher marks and assessments than her peers at each level as she makes her way up the ladder, as well as running the line at Football League level; she hasn't just been thrown into the Premiership at random because someone thinks we should have a few female officals.
Most of all it was the sheer arrogance and lack of humour in Keys' voice that sickened me. He's always irritated me and I regard him as pretty much unemployable after that. What a creep.
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| Quote ="Prince of Denmark"Most of all it was the sheer arrogance and lack of humour in Keys' voice that sickened me. He's always irritated me and I regard him as pretty much unemployable after that. What a creep.'"
His daughter's fit though
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| Never seen this Brady woman til this morning, she's quite fit actually. Hope that's acceptable to say
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| Quote ="flipper"well it's the same as Gordon Brown and 'that bigoted woman' or whatever he called her
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| There right, as a control measure I asked my mam, wife and daughter to explain the offside rule to me and they couldn't, proof beyond all reasonable doubt that womens brains are not complex enough to understand the finer points in life.
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