I think they will, mind you i've got Serbia (in Germanys group) to get to the semi finals



Can't right off the German's just yet

Can't believe it took that long to get this thread's first World Cup cliche!

Still a while before we have the "lottery of penalties" though



In all seriousness, I wouldn't be counting much on Miroslav Klose either. One goal from eighteen Bundesliga appearances isn't the sort of form you want to be taking into a World Cup.

In my opinion, with Ballack out, Germany's hope lie with Mesut Ozil. He's have to pull the strings in the midfield Germany's best player injured. If he fires then Germany will do alright, if not they won't get out of their group.

Ratio abit like Heskey's



More likely Klose will find from in South Africa

Id kick Dawson, Carragher, Warnock, Huddlestone, Walcott, Carrick and Lennon out of the squad.

Start with

James

G.Johnson
Ferdinand
JT
A.Cole

Milner
Barry
Lampard
Gerrard

Rooney
Crouch

And take Wright-Phillips? Are you serious?

No World Cup totty thread yet?

I dont really rate him either but out of the 2 i prefer SWP.

i think beckham on one leg would do a better job then SWP

Me too. Out of the 4 right-sided wingers we've named (I suspect Johnson is in Capello's mind for the left), both Walcott and Wright-Phillips offer poor end product 9 times out of 10. Lennon has been the form player despite his injury this season, and Milner would have been my first pick on last year's form, but he's spent most of this season in a central role.

Walcott SWP and Lennon have no end product.Out the 3 i prefer SWP.

I suspect you've not seen him play much this season, as Lennon has had. As evidenced by him being in the top assists this season despite missing 4 months out injured. His delivery really has improved IMO.

Spain squad announced: Casillas, Reina, Valdés, Albiol, Arbeloa, , Capdevila, Marchena, Piqué, Puyol, Sergio Ramos, Xabi Alonso, Busquets, Cesc, Iniesta, Javi Martínez, Silva, Xavi, Navas, Mata, Pedro, Llorente, Fernando Torres y Villa.

Some surprises in there, most notably Valdes and Pedro, obviously they are looking very strong but Iniesta, Fabregas and Torres all have had injury issues recently, and David Villa was looking knackered towards the end of the season - so there may be a couple of things to get at.

Can we have a ban on any and all adverts featuring football and footballers (esp the Pringoooooals advert)? Oh and the Carslberg advert that features the trampling on Sir Bobby Robson's grave.

Once that is in place bring it on.

I would agree, Carlsberg whipping up the nutters to drink more of their product and then go on the rampage when we go out on penalties again.

And Crouch has a creepy look about him on the Pringles ad.

Mind you i like the ITV world cup ad with the Jimi Hendrix song.

I wouldn't say Pedro's selection is a surprise. His form has been excellent for Barca this season. I would have selected Carzola and Senna instead of Llorente and Busquets, who I rate neither of.

Just realised this only leaves them with Villa and Torres as out-and-out strikers. Llorente back in for Senna then.

If there isn't, there should be.

Hasn't Xavi been playing with an injury aswell? Or am I getting him mixed up with someone else? Iniesta maybe?

In order I would have:-

Lennon - has matured a lot this season and is starting to produce some end product to his game
Walcott - Overhyped but does have electric pace that could be useful if used off the bench in the last 25 mins
SWP - Not even sure why he is in the squad really, he would not make my 23

Some quality stadiums

Haven't paid any attention to him at all, as I don't rate him, can he cross yet? At United he could never manage to get the ball off the ground. Not sure what he's been upto lately. Can he manage this yet?

Still inconsistent at times, but he's provided his strikers with some great supply this season, particularly when whipping it across the 6-yard box.

I'd personally take Walcott.

I dont think his career has been helped as much as everybody thought it would be, by Wenger.

Infact, if anything, i think it has stalled his progress somewhat.

He is a very decent player, excellent pace, and offers something different.

Have at it Wanderer!