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| Quote ="Bang"Fo' sho! We have two. We had a small one to see what they we're like, see if they lived up to the hype. And we we're that impressed with it, we only went and bought another bigger one didn't we!'"
Best way. You can get loads of bacon on them. Gorgeous.
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| The fight would and is generating a lot of interest.
Think that somebody should stop Tyson from fighting though, because he could get seriously hurt. I doubt Tyson has ever recovered phsycologically from the 1st beating that Holyfield gave him and to do it again or even worse, could have grave consequences for a 40 year old plus Tyson.
Tyson, at his best, was easily in the top-ten heavy weights of all time but even then a young George Foreman would have anniahilated Tyson inside of 2 minutes. Time for Tyson to let go me thinks...
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| Quote ="General Zod." a young George Foreman would have anniahilated Tyson inside of 2 minutes. Time for Tyson to let go me thinks...'"
always makes me laugh, the certainty of opinion about a fight which is historically impossible. Yes, Tyson is small like Joe Frasier or Ken Norton but he was also quicker, hit harder and threw punches in combination much better than either of them... so there are many variables.
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| Quote ="beax"always makes me laugh, the certainty of opinion about a fight which is historically impossible. Yes, Tyson is small like Joe Frasier or Ken Norton but he was also quicker, hit harder and threw punches in combination much better than either of them... so there are many variables.
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There renders your post as a joke.
And as regards a fight being "historically impossible", you are wrong. When Foreman regained the crown in the mid-nineties, he wanted to fight Tyson but Tyson's team would not even come to the table to conduct negotiatons as Tyson had privately told them he did not want to fight Foreman.
I'd still have a Foreman to win at that time though a lot of people would argue against that but as far as a young Foreman (such as the one who anniahalated Joe Frazier) against a young Tyson goes, Tyson would not last 2 mins.
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| It is historically impossible for a YOUNG George to fight Mike Tyson... jeez... you dont even know the contents of your own post.
As for my comment about Tyson being a harder hitter than Norton or Frazier..
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| Quote ="Danny 2"i think tyson would wipe the mat with holyfield'"
you not seen the size of Tyson now?
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| i thought there was already a boxing thread.
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| Tyson vs. Holyfield ? Oh no.
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| who has dug this topic up?
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| Quote ="Danny 2"i think tyson would wipe the mat with holyfield'" Can*t it be an elimnator and the winner fight Richard Dunn !!!!!
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| Mike Tyson.
2nd best Heavyweight of all time. Absolute Animal.
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| Quote ="Walter Neff"Can*t it be an elimnator and the winner fight Richard Dunn !!!!!'"
keep up la dunn got ko'd by henry cooper in the final eliminator last weekend!
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| Quote ="chris_joynt's_barber"keep up la dunn got ko'd by henry cooper in the final eliminator last weekend!'" Our" Enry it is then.
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| Quote ="Walter Neff"Our" Enry it is then.'"
not so fast! just one more hurdle to go he has a warm up fight against terry marsh yet.
it will be a hard fight i.m.o as marsh will come out all guns blazing
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| Quote ="Ashmeister"Mike Tyson.
2nd best Heavyweight of all time. Absolute Animal.'"
You don't know much about boxing do you?
Tyson is probably the most exciting heavyweight of all time and in the top-ten but 2nd best? - no chance...
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| Quote ="General Zod."You don't know much about boxing do you?
Tyson is probably the most exciting heavyweight of all time and in the top-ten but 2nd best? - no chance...'"
I agree he'd not be 2nd, but I'd go further than top 10 and say top 5.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I agree he'd not be 2nd, but I'd go further than top 10 and say top 5.'"
[iMaybe [/iat his peak but I doubt it.
I just think his reputation was built off being fed loads of petrified stiffs by Don King.
Many people will point to Buster Douglas's victory over Tyson as the turning point but I believe it our own Frank Bruno who showed the vulnerability in Tyson's chin before Bruno retreated and got pummeled.
I just don't think Tyson would last even 2mins with the George Foreman that annihilated Frazier for example.
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| Quote ="General Zod."[iMaybe [/iat his peak but I doubt it.
I just think his reputation was built off being fed loads of petrified stiffs by Don King.
Many people will point to Buster Douglas's victory over Tyson as the turning point but I believe it our own Frank Bruno who showed the vulnerability in Tyson's chin before Bruno retreated and got pummeled.
I just don't think Tyson would last even 2mins with the George Foreman that annihilated Frazier for example.'"
Plenty of fighters were paired with puddings at times, including the likes of Louis and Marciano. It's often the way boxers develop specific aspects of their style.
He quite probably wouldn't have lasted more than a few rounds with Foreman in his prime, but then who did? We'll never know though, and what you have to remember is that whilst as you say Tyson had his weakness exposed for others to exploit, Foreman quit as soon as Ali had shown everybody how it could be done. Maybe if he'd continued, 1or 2 others would have followed this up and he wouldn't still have such an aura of dominance for people to look back on.
For me, Ali is out on his own as number 1, and then you have a handful vying to be runners up, including Foreman, Louis, and Tyson. I really wish there was more footage of Jack Johnson too.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Plenty of fighters were paired with puddings at times, including the likes of Louis and Marciano. It's often the way boxers develop specific aspects of their style.
He quite probably wouldn't have lasted more than a few rounds with Foreman in his prime, but then who did? We'll never know though, and what you have to remember is that whilst as you say Tyson had his weakness exposed for others to exploit, Foreman quit as soon as Ali had shown everybody how it could be done. Maybe if he'd continued, 1or 2 others would have followed this up and he wouldn't still have such an aura of dominance for people to look back on.
For me, Ali is out on his own as number 1, and then you have a handful vying to be runners up, including Foreman, Louis, and Tyson. I really wish there was more footage of Jack Johnson too.'"
Fair points but I don't think we've ever seen Tyson in the trenches apart for when Holyfield smashed him all over the ring and the other contenders you've mentioned would not fold so easily which is why I think he's no more than top-ten.
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| Quote ="General Zod."
I just think his reputation was built off being fed loads of petrified stiffs by Don King.
I just don't think Tyson would last even 2mins with the George Foreman that annihilated Frazier for example.'"
1. every single world champion that has ever been are fed on fighters that are far less classy than them its fact. used to be known as "the bum of month club"
2. saying that foreman would beat tyson in 2mins is quite ridiculous tyson was far far quicker than foreman! foreman beat people that had no footwork and just stood infront of him going toe to toe
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| Quote ="chris_joynt's_barber"1. every single world champion that has ever been are fed on fighters that are far less classy than them its fact. used to be known as "the bum of month club"
2. saying that foreman would beat tyson in 2mins is quite ridiculous
tyson was far far quicker than foreman! foreman beat people that had no footwork and just stood infront of him going toe to toe'"
Not at all - Tyson gets hit by Foreman and it's lights out.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Fair points but I don't think we've ever seen Tyson in the trenches apart for when Holyfield smashed him all over the ring and the other contenders you've mentioned would not fold so easily which is why I think he's no more than top-ten.'"
Tyson was waaay past his best by the time he fought Holyfield. We were talking about in his prime, otherwise it's an unfair comparison. It's hard to say whether the others would fold so easily. In the case of Louis, he never came up against anyone a dangerous as Tyson IMO (see cjb's reference to 'bum of the month club' - Louis and Marciano were probably the most criticised for this), and Foreman was also given plenty of fodder to plough through. Once he came up against someone who didn't crumple quickly in Ali, he had no idea what to do.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Not at all - Tyson gets hit by Foreman and it's lights out.'"
Yeah, I suppose it's as easy as that because it's not as if Tyson had a decent defensive style or anything.
Tyson and Foreman were both similar in that they were unbelievably strong over the first 6 rounds, but not really comfortable going much further. Neither or them were ever beaten in early rounds when at their best, so it's tough to say one would quickly overpower the other or even one would take it over the distance. Claiming Foreman in 2 minutes is just plain silly though IMO.
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| Tyson is no way a top 10 heavyweight - top 15 maybe. People always talk about how good he was in his prime, but who did he beat in his prime? Spinks? A blown up light-heavyweight. Bruno - never an elite heavyweight. An Aincent Larry Holmes?
A prime tyson is possibly the most overrated fighter of all-time.
My top 10 heavyweights (in no order)
Joe Louis
Ali
Lewis
Holyfield
Holmes
Foreman
Fraizer
Dempsey
Tunney
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