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| Quote ="Billy Banter"Not so fast. He was given a post-race penalty of 25 secs which meant he finished 12th. Vendetta or what, after being put to the back in the first place?'"
Rules is rules, you break 'em, you pay.
Unless you're Ferrari, obviously.
IIRC when that final accident happened, Hamilton was in 3rd. There were immediate waved yellows which means no overtaking unless there is a subsequent green flag waved, then the safety car came out. So the only way he could have got past Hamilton was to overtake under waved yellows. Even if he subsequently gave the place back, it's still an offence.
Didn't Toyota hold their hands up to the illegal kit on their car?
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| Quote ="Billy Banter"He was given a post-race penalty of 25 secs which meant he finished 12th.'"
I Think It's One Of Those Rules That's A Shambles Far Enough If He Did Overtake But Just Demote Him To 4th Those No Need To Give Him A 25 Second Penalty...
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| Quote ="The Joker®"I Think It's One Of Those Rules That's A Shambles Far Enough If He Did Overtake But Just Demote Him To 4th Those No Need To Give Him A 25 Second Penalty...'"
Well, normally he probably would still have got 4th, but on this occasion all the cars were squeezed up because of the safety car for the last 3 laps.
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| Quote ="Billy Banter"Well, normally he probably would still have got 4th, but on this occasion all the cars were squeezed up because of the safety car for the last 3 laps.
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Ahh, that explains the times between drivers I saw listed (didnt get round to watching beyond lap 6-7 of the race, and assumed from the results and times that things were a lot closer this year. Oh Well.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Ahh, that explains the times between drivers I saw listed (didnt get round to watching beyond lap 6-7 of the race, and assumed from the results and times that things were a lot closer this year. Oh Well.'"
To be fair, it was a relatively close race, as indicated by the way Hamilton was able to carve through the field. Don't think Button was ever more than 4-5 seconds clear at the front.
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| Quote ="fredie"got u peeps stumped
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| Breaking news on SSN; the FIA have reversed their decision to award Hamilton 3rd place & have excluded him from the classifications altogether for giving "evidence that was deliberately misleading" to the stewards!
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Fri 03 April 2009
Friday Practice 1 03:00 - 04:30
Friday Practice 2 07:00 - 08:30
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Saturday Practice 07:00 - 08:00
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| Quote ="The Joker®"I Think It's One Of Those Rules That's A Shambles Far Enough If He Did Overtake But Just Demote Him To 4th Those No Need To Give Him A 25 Second Penalty...'"
Geeessss. That must be right pain in the @r$e typing a capital letter at the start of [ievery[/i word
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| Quote ="Yorkshire_Red"Breaking news on SSN; the FIA have reversed their decision to award Hamilton 3rd place & have excluded him from the classifications altogether for giving "evidence that was deliberately misleading" to the stewards!'"
Hamilton and McLaren excluded; Trulli and Toyota reinstated to 3rd.
See earlier posts.
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| I thought it was too good to be true that the FIA had PROMOTED McClaren up the grid after the race and now normal FIA buisness is resumed
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| An absolute joke.
The final straw that made me agree that the FIA is bent/biased was when i saw an interview with Mossley and he had a huge model of a Ferrari on his desk.
What i don't understand is what the FIA have against McLaren and Hamilton in general.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"What i don't understand is what the FIA have against McLaren and Hamilton in general.'"
Spygate. At least, that's why they don't trust McLaren.
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"Spygate. At least, that's why they don't trust McLaren.'"
Yeah, suppose so.
Still everything they seem to do benefits Ferrari and is detrimental to McLaren.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"Yeah, suppose so.
Still everything they seem to do benefits Ferrari and is detrimental to McLaren.'"
The attitude of senior FIA figures appears to be that the sport could not exist without the Ferrari marque in it, whereas it could manage quite nicely without a company who don't even manufacture road cars.
It's an attitude repeated up and down the various bodies involved in F1 including the manufacturers own organisation, of which the Ferrari chief is spokesperson.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Rules is rules, you break 'em, you pay.'"
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| There's never a dull moment in F1, but the controversy makes great talking points, I'm Hamilton has had all his points taken from him.
From the Metro Fantasy F1, I got 62 points from lat week too.
Hamilton 36
Alonso 14
Fisichella 9 (Now got Brawn GP and Button)
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| F1 is a complete joke now, if ferrari don't score any points thenthe FIA do all they can to make sure its rival don't.
After last season when Hamilton was done for passing Raikkonen over the corner and then yeilding to allow Raikkonen to regain the place Hamilton for me did the right thing in asking the question of should he let Trulli through.
Its interesting that when McLaren asked the race director/stewards whether or not Hamilton should let Trulli back through they got no repsonce at all so McLaren took the decision themselves.
For me if McLaren/Hamilton hadn't let Trulli through they would have been done most probably for passing Trulli under yellows (even though he had gone off the track). Be interesting to see if there is anything about passing cars off track whilst under yellows?
F1 is no longer about racing but back stabbing and court cases.
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| Ferrari seem to have got their act together in 2nd practice.
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| its a buntch of sugar daddy's playing puppets at the circus
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| If you read the letters pages on Teletext there are a hell of a lot of them there who, for some reason, hate Lewis Hamilton.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"If you read the letters pages on Teletext there are a hell of a lot of them there who, for some reason, hate Lewis Hamilton.'"
To be fair he does seem like somebody your either a fan of or you hate him.
He's abit of a cry baby and i'm not really as much of a fan as i was last year.
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| McLaren's decision to suspend their sporting director over this clearly shows they know they did nothing wrong and this is a FIA conspiracy to benefit Ferrari.
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