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| The Lions did very well and pulled off a comprehensive victory which I didn’t expect as I thought the Aussies had the momentum after game 2. What was particularly impressive was the fact that their lead was pegged back and they could have crumbled but came back and literally blew the Wallabies away
Nothing more to say than well done and congratulations on the series win
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| It's nice to win games, but it takes the edge off for me if you can't score tries in the process.
Often the opposition score more tries.
It was great this time to score 4 tries to one including three cracking second-half tries.
Memorable.
Rare.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"It's nice to win games, but it takes the edge off for me if you can't score tries in the process.'"
At this level, winning is pretty much everything......same in soccer and many other sports in that Finals rarely deliver classics and the 3rd Lions test was a "final".
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| Well done England, and well done the coach for bringing Care off when the game was critically balanced and we were leading by just five points.
Loser!
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| they deserved to lose, absolute dismal passing, Twelvetrees kicking when he had a 3 man overlap was priceless..top internationsals my , I've seen better from kids playing league in the park.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"they deserved to lose, absolute dismal passing, Twelvetrees kicking when he had a 3 man overlap was priceless..top internationsals my booty, I've seen better from kids playing league in the park.'"
You're right, they still don't know where to stand and how and just when to give the pass to create the gaps.
I thought with Andy Farrell on board that they would have sorted this out along the lines of attacking in rugby league with a proper delta wing shape.
They truly are useless and Lancaster sits there like Sven used to do for England football and does nothing as things go wrong.
We have had one great result against NZ and that's it. We are going backwards!
Just why aren't England the strongest six nations side?
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| Farrell throws a dummy & goes through the gap. 14 other players in the team & not one within 20m of him. If Shaun Edwards had been in the stands he could have got changed, ran on the pitch & been in support before any of the England team new what was happening. Amateur.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Farrell throws a dummy & goes through the gap. 14 other players in the team & not one within 20m of him. If Shaun Edwards had been in the stands he could have got changed, ran on the pitch & been in support before any of the England team new what was happening. Amateur.'"
I remember shouting at the telly the same thing.
You're right.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Farrell throws a dummy & goes through the gap. 14 other players in the team & not one within 20m of him. If Shaun Edwards had been in the stands he could have got changed, ran on the pitch & been in support before any of the England team new what was happening. Amateur.'"
And yet they're paid like professionals.
They have the game they deserve, we have the leftovers.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Farrell throws a dummy & goes through the gap. 14 other players in the team & not one within 20m of him. If Shaun Edwards had been in the stands he could have got changed, ran on the pitch & been in support before any of the England team new what was happening. Amateur.'"
Ive seen much worse defending in pretty much every super league game I have watched this season
Regards
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| Any genuine fans on this thread or it is still an outlet for slagging off the game?
Been an interesting start to the domestic season with some real eye-catching results. Not sure that they mean much at this stage of the season but there looks to be much more competition for the Top 4 places than in other seasons, particularly from Bath and Wasps.
Gloucester have been very disappointing after a big off-season, and are fully deserving of their criticism in the press after some very negative tactical decisions, not least at home against Exeter when they chose to kick a penalty at 12-25 down.
That said it's been an enjoyable start, there are normally some very entertaining games at this point in the season before the weather and the pitches turn and stifle the attacking intent.
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| Same as usual from what I've seen , some great games and some truly wretched. Bath are playing some decent stuff by all accounts.
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| Kyle Eastmond is on fire
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| For the first time in a long time I sat through a full 80 minutes of Rugby Union today. One of my good friends plays for Sale (Mike Haley, fullback) so I tuned into the Sale/Munster game to see how he went on.
It was a very entertaining game which involved some good attacking rugby. It went down to the wire and unfortunately Munster won it on the last play with a drop goal. However, it made me think how glad I am that we don't have contested scrums anymore in RL. One scrummage went on for about 2 minutes, it collapsed 4 times until the referee gave a penalty. If they eliminated that area of the game then I'd gladly watch more of the club game, was pleasantly surprised by it today.
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| You chose a good one to watch Bluenose, best game of the weekend for mine. And most Union fans would agree on the farcical state of the scrum. It can 'ruin' an otherwise good game.
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| Well done England ... keep on box kicking the ball to NZ ... fooking brain dead.
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| Better!
Beating Wales at Cardiff.
Dominated, but still wasteful however.
Didn't like the ref disallowing one of our tries for obstruction ... harsh!
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| I'm so glad the BBC are paying £40M a year for this e, I tried watching it, found the rewind button and just fast forwarded the dull bits. I counted one scrum at 105 seconds between the ball going dead to ball coming out..they seriously need to sort that out at international level.
Everyone saying Wales should win given England's loss of players but the way Lancaster uses his tactics he can stifle a game really easily in the forwards and England have a decent pack especially the back 3.
Was Hartley any good?
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I'm so glad the BBC are paying £40M a year for this poop, I tried watching it?'"
Why? Genuine question......why would you watch a sport you don't like?
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Why? Genuine question......why would you watch a sport you don't like?'"
Why what? relating to the scrums, to Lancasters tactics, to Wales's failure, to Why the BBC forked out £40M/year???? You're being very ambiguous.
Genuine question, why do you bother reading & commenting in response to another poster when you don't like what it says nor even understand the content??
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Why what? relating to the scrums, to Lancasters tactics, to Wales's failure, to Why the BBC forked out £40M/year???? You're being very ambiguous.
Genuine question, why do you bother reading & commenting in response to another poster when you don't like what it says nor even understand the content??'"
Why watch a sport you don't like and don't understand? Are the population of the uk stupid because they tune in in larger numbers for wales v south Africa than for a rlwc semi between England and NZ? Are the bbc wrong to pay 40,000,000 for 70,000,000 eyeballs?
Union is not as good as league in our eyes, but to question its fans or finances smacks of insecurity.
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| I think it down to this. R.U is poorer on the pitch but is packaged as an event....a part of a full day of socialising.
R.L is a better specticle on the pitch but isn't marketed very well and desperately needs international success to broaden its appeal.
There i have had my two bob's worth....carry on!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Why watch a sport you don't like and don't understand? Are the population of the uk stupid because they tune in in larger numbers for wales v south Africa than for a rlwc semi between England and NZ? Are the bbc wrong to pay 40,000,000 for 70,000,000 eyeballs?
Union is not as good as league in our eyes, but to question its fans or finances smacks of insecurity.'"
Well a) it's none of your ing business, b) who says I dislike it? c) i understand the sport as equally if not better than than you do.
I catch up as I'm curious as to how the national team are doing. I get frustrated that nothing much has changed re the scrums since I stopped playing, I first played at the age of 12 (we had to play union as well as league back in those days) I know the rules very well & I was a flanker cum inside centre when I was asked to play the odd game in the off season in my older years..
Now, I'll ask you again, why again do you feel the need to comment on what another poster writes if you don't understand what they have said and try to second guess what that poster likes/dislikes? Is it a cry for help, are you feeling suicidal that you need to come up with a response to everything you hate or can't understand??
I suggest you get professional help as you sound like you're on the edge of a breakdown
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I suggest you get professional help as you sound like you're on the edge of a breakdown'"
Not satisfied with your claim to know more about Rugby Union than me, you're now on a freudian trip too?
Let's look at your post again shall we?
Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I'm so glad the BBC are paying £40M a year for this poop, I tried watching it, found the rewind button and just fast forwarded the dull bits. I counted one scrum at 105 seconds between the ball going dead to ball coming out..they seriously need to sort that out at international level.
Everyone saying Wales should win given England's loss of players but the way Lancaster uses his tactics he can stifle a game really easily in the forwards and England have a decent pack especially the back 3.
Was Hartley any good? '"
So....the BBC paying £40M for "this poop" is what you open with. I have explained that "this poop" attracts 70,000,000 viewers in the UK alone. It is steeped in history with the only changes to the comp being the addition of France and then Italy from the original home nations comp and it induces jingoistic rivalries with some nations considering victory over England more important than winning the whole comp.
Then you continue that you "tried watching it" and that you "fast forwarded" through it, only to stop and actually time a scrum?
I doubt there is a commentator or supporter of Union who doesn't agree with you about the scrum. I too have played Union and not just at schoolboy level either. I do not pretend to know the "dark arts" of the front row union boys, but I suspect that this issue will continue and scrums will continue to be a mess until they "emasculate" them as they have already done in League.
Then you comment on Lancasters habit of reverting to 10 man rugby. I agree, he does seem to struggle past 10 and he plays to his forward strengths and as a result, the game is often a turgid turd of a thing......but if come November this year he's managed to get his team to the RWC Final, nobody will really give a toss. Would you give a flying one if England RL played boring one up footie but actually won something?
Lastly, Dylan Hartley plays Hooker in Union which means he's not there to play footie, but to ad weight to the pack in the loose whilst also being able to throw to his jumpers and hook the ball if required. If you're asking "was he any good" in relation to his match v Wales...he gave away a penalty in the 47th minute and was subbed 9 minutes later...if you were asking because you wanted to know did he bite, punch or gouge anyones eye, the answer is no, he behaved himself. He is a 60+ test veteran player, so whilst I don't watch much union I'd say he's a pretty effective unit given Lancasters preoccupation with his numbers 1 to 8.
So, there you have it my amateur psychiatrist......a response to your original post. The BBC pay what they believe it's worth, the scrums are a fiasco and Hartley played 56 minutes in his 61st test!
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