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| Quote ="richardviking"Reports suggesting Real are ready to pull the plug on the Alonso deal. Hope so.'"
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"No quotes? What did he say?'"
This is the only report there is on it. SKY arn't even reporting anything just yet. BBC trying to pull and exclusive out the bag.
Until anything official comes out I won't believe it, more in hope than anything, but it is worrying.
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"Ok, I missed a word out. The midfield was the [imain[/i problem, and that's by a long way. For years our defence has been awful and the root cause of our problems. Last season, this wasn't the case. Our midfield created very little in attack and barring Jonas, hardly offered any support in defence. Nicky Butt is meant to be the defensive midfield type player in our side, yet the only time he decided to track back was when he thought it'd be a good idea to give away yet another penalty. The amount of times last season he was caught out of position and not tracking back was unreal. He constantly gave the ball away to the opposition (as did most of our midfield, but he was the main culprit). All of which heaps pressure on the defence. Our best three players last season were defenders (Bassong, Enrique and Taylor). The defence did make some errors at times, who doesn't? The strikers also missed a few decent chances between them, mainly towards the end of the season. Out of the three units on the pitch though, the main blame lies with the midfield.
Owen, for example, will do well at Man Utd because he will have lots of chances created for him. We didn't create enough for him, hence why he struggled for goals.'"
Ash, how many more times? Taylor is cack.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Ash, how many more times? Taylor is cack.'"
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"Shut it daft lad.
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"Ok, I missed a word out. The midfield was the [imain[/i problem, and that's by a long way. For years our defence has been awful and the root cause of our problems. Last season, this wasn't the case. Our midfield created very little in attack and barring Jonas, hardly offered any support in defence. Nicky Butt is meant to be the defensive midfield type player in our side, yet the only time he decided to track back was when he thought it'd be a good idea to give away yet another penalty. The amount of times last season he was caught out of position and not tracking back was unreal. He constantly gave the ball away to the opposition (as did most of our midfield, but he was the main culprit). All of which heaps pressure on the defence. Our best three players last season were defenders (Bassong, Enrique and Taylor). The defence did make some errors at times, who doesn't? The strikers also missed a few decent chances between them, mainly towards the end of the season. Out of the three units on the pitch though, the main blame lies with the midfield.
Owen, for example, will do well at Man Utd because he will have lots of chances created for him. We didn't create enough for him, hence why he struggled for goals.'"
All very interesting, but still missing the point. The fact that your midfield was worse does not mean your defence was any good. They were still pap as well. And with you being a Hull fan as well, I thought you'd have realised by now that looking ok in a poor side doesn't exclude you from being a duff player.
Bassong looks decent, I agree.
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"Shut it daft lad.
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You know I speak the truth and stop blaming Nicky Butt for everything that is wrong at Newcastle Also I wouldn't say your midfield was the main problem. You actually passed the ball far better than the likes of Hull City.
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| Barca's new stadium [url=http://www.cnplus.co.uk/5205577.article#here[/url
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| SSN say Liverpool are in for Christian Poulsen from Juventus.
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| Looks like the Lescott deal is going to happen Poulson too Liverpool maybe 2 year ago would of been good he will be a big big step down from Alonso
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| Quote ="LFCRhino"I like the sig mate its the first time I have seen it
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"All very interesting, but still missing the point. The fact that your midfield was worse does not mean your defence was any good. They were still pap as well. And with you being a Hull fan as well, I thought you'd have realised by now that looking ok in a poor side doesn't exclude you from being a duff player.
Bassong looks decent, I agree.'"
I'm not missing the point, I just don't agree that our defence was 'pap'. Ryan Taylor was awful when he played at right back, Coloccini faded badly at the back end of the season and rightly lost his place in the side. Beye was injured for most of the season so can't really include him. Bassong, Taylor and Enrique all played well throughout the season.
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| Quote ="richardviking"SSN say Liverpool are in for Christian Poulsen from Juventus.'"
Where's this? I can't find it on the site.
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| Quote ="flipper"Barca's new stadium [url=http://www.cnplus.co.uk/5205577.article#here[/url'"
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Where's this? I can't find it on the site.'"
Sky Sports News, not the website. Give it an hour.
I don't think he's a bad player, but not half the player Alonso is. And he's more of a vigilant defender, in the mould of Mascherano.
What are your thoughts on Lucas? Could he step up to the plate?
Of all the players we're being linked with, I'd prefer Steven Defour. But he is unproven.
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"Which part mate?'"
Both mate to be honest
Its nice to know that he kept in touch with everyone like Mourinho just proves even more that he was a top friend to everyone that he coached/worked with and Im sure everyone felt the same as Jose Mourinho did
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| Quote ="LFCRhino"Both mate to be honest
Its nice to know that he kept in touch with everyone like Mourinho just proves even more that he was a top friend to everyone that he coached/worked with and Im sure everyone felt the same as Jose Mourinho did'"
Robson did a lot for Mourinho's career. It's not really surprising how far Mourinho's come having worked under the great man.
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| Quote ="richardviking"Sky Sports News, not the website. Give it an hour.
I don't think he's a bad player, but not half the player Alonso is. And he's more of a vigilant defender, in the mould of Mascherano.
What are your thoughts on Lucas? Could he step up to the plate?
Of all the players we're being linked with, I'd prefer Steven Defour. But he is unproven.'"
Poulsen is just a hard man in the middle really. Not much ability and not very productive, could back Masch up well, but he'd be a step down from Sissoko, so I don't see why we should bother.
Lucas I'm mixed on, people give him some unnecessary stick for no real reason, other than Goodison away in't cup he's never let us down, and he's played in some pretty big games in his time here. I don't really think Rafa has given him a role he thrives off, he's at his best when he can break forward into the box and support the striker. When he's played for us he's just been asked to chase people down and win aerial battles. He's held his own at times, but coming straight from Brazil, it's not exactly what his game was all about back then.
However, I'd like to see him take up a bit more responsibility, to step forward and try and play decisive passes, to have a shot from distance and just try something different. He just seems a bit 'frightened' when he plays, as though he just wants to get on with his work and do as he's told, but I'd like to see him take things on.
I think he'll be given more responsibility this year, I just hope he takes it in his stride and rises to it.
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| Quote ="flipper"Barca's new stadium [url=http://www.cnplus.co.uk/5205577.article#here[/url'"
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Alonso gone £30M £5M to Rafa rest to Yanks great stuff.'"
Aquilani en route to Melwood for his medical, then?
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Alonso gone £30M £5M to Rafa rest to Yanks great stuff.'"
Says who? I would have thought he'd have around half of it to play with, at least.
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