We aint going to get 4th Villa have more chance then us.

Us beat Chelsea? don't be silly

Well obviously seeing as they're on more points





Villa to L, D = 65
Spurs to W, D, L= 68
Liverpool to W, W= 68
Man C to W, D, L= 67

Liverpool to make 4th on GD. The PL need either Villa or Spurs to get 4th though.

Can still get 20/1 on Liverpool to finish 4th. Depends how much you want to beat Chelsea though.

TBH I think both games could go either way. I think there is some % of Liverpool fans who don't want United taking their title record, but I don't think that will be felt by the players.

To Benitez and the players, it's a chance to show that they are better than their performance this season suggests. To derail our title hopes will be a feather in their cap, and while they won't be happy for Man United to win the title, they will be delighted to screw us over. And the prospect of 4th is obviously a massive goal.

There's suggestions that Steve Bruce would roll over for Fergie, but similar motivations surround Sunderland. To be able to beat a title-chasing Man United, after drawing at OT would be a great feat. Sunderland's league position could swing between 9th and 13th, depending on results. That's a significant amount of money for a club like Sunderland.

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Erm, no it doesn't.

Chelsea will win their last games and win the league. Couldn't give a toss who gets 4th.

Can't see City and Spurs losing the last games of the season.

Hopefully we be in the Uefa Cup final and Rafa will feel the need to rest the entire team.

I find most Leeds United fans arent too bothered/concerned about the premier league anymore.......

Erm, yes it does.

If Liverpool get 4th the 'big 4 domination' continues...this is the best year for that to end since 2005.

If City get 4th then they'll get the cheque book out and bridge the gap even further. At least if Villa or Spurs get it the gap won't be as big. Simples really.

No it doesn't. Srsly. lol.

No f-cking sh.it Sherlock.

So why post about it if your not bovvered then?

The PL doesn't need Villa/Spurttts to get 4th. The end.

Please expand as to why you think this??

At the moment you're the worlds worst quiz contenstant...."So for a million pound, do you know the capital of Brazil?... Yes I do, I'll take the cash...thanks.."

Care to venture an explanation please

It would be better for the Premier League, better for English football, if the top 4 wasn't a closed shop and more sides could reach the top. It will be good for the game should Liverpool fail to qualify for the CL.

But to say the PL needs Spurs or Villa to get 4th is just ridiculous.

You're contradicting yourself surely? Nobody wants Liverpool to qualify for it, simple as that, and if City qualify their cheque book will be out in force once again and they'll be able to offer players CL football instead of Uefa or none at all. Thus making it even harder for anyone else to bridge that gap. Surely it can only be good for the PL to 'close up'.

Thats why out of the four in the chase it'll be better for the PL should Villa or Spurs get it, as they'll be much easier to displace than City or Liverpool would be should they get it.

Do you not think Spurs will spend money to bridge the gap if they finish there? I'm willing to bet Citeh or Spurs will spend more than us this summer, no matter where we or they finish.

Of course they will. But City will spend more (regardless of where they finish) but they'll (City) spend even more should they finish in CL positions. Plus the players they try and sign will be more tempted by CL football. Wage bills aren't everything (see Kaka).

City and Spurs will spend more, but thats more to do with you're financial muscle...'or lack of'.

I agree but then I would because we all know who I want to finish 4th

Villa and Spurs would get their s handed to them in the CL.

Bit like Liverpool this year I guess...

It is. It doesn't even need explaining.

Who cares? They'll have earned the right to drop out at the first stages.

Wow. What do you do for a profession? You'll never make a line manager will you?

Please, please, please explain. I'm at a loss, seriously.

No, you explain to me, why the PL needs Villa or Spurs to get 4th?

I won't reply. I won't even read it. Because I already know I won't be interested. Because I already know that I'm right.

Read up stoopid, I've posted my reasons for it several times.

You're that arrogant that you know you're right?













I'm not for one minute saying that I'm 100% right, but I have give my reasons for my belief. You can't do that? That because you can't? You've got nothing to back your belief up? Apart from arogance?

And I bet you're just a chav from Beeston.