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| TNA have the stars, they have the talented undercard now if only they could get some decent booking they may be going somewhere. Booking Waltman, Hall & Bubba The Love Sponge is NOT the way forward. They will be lucky to draw higher than a 0.6 this evening.
WWE though are going the right way about this. Bret Hart alone will spike the rating at LEAST 1 point. Add to that the show being of PPV quality [DX vs Jerishow, Orton vs Kofi & A probable Women's Title Change. to name a few TNA has no chance in hell of competing, Hogan or no Hogan.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"I can't see Hart coming back as a heel.
I did read something interesting the other day (but it's probably all bull) but the long and short of it was that Hart knew about the screwjob in advance, he was going to WCW and he'd have less of a hassle with the move if it was seen that he left WWE on less than pleasant terms and that the whole thing has been a 12 year work. Like I say, it's probably bull, but it'd be crazy if it was true'"
The way Vince has been working the last few weeks, Bret will not be the heel. As for the whole worked shoot thing...this story has been knocking around for years. The only way this would seem plausable would be that it was a worked shoot for Bret to get the big Payday from WCW but went wrong when Owen died. Though I don't believe it. I think the Wrestling with Shadows thing was simply bret FEARING he was going to be screwed and wanting it documented.
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| I agree that TNA will still suffer, (despite getting Angelina back tonight - which I'll probably watch it later for that). They couldn't even sell out their big granddaddy event so having Hogan & his mates won't change anything.
Interesting the rumours being "mysteriously" let out about Kennedy, RVD, Jeff Hardy. Smacks of despiration.
Conversely I hope HBK mentions the "cowardly bald yellow dog" comment from Bret's book.
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| Watching both streams, the broadcasters are warning that they may go down as the numbers (2 hours before broadcast) are above WM numbers for both shows.
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| TNA isn't been shown complete in Britain, it's going to be a 2 hour edit not the full 3 hours.
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| The main event for TNA iMPACT Live is;
AJ Styles vs Kurt Angle for the TNA World Heavyweight Championship.
Matt Morgan & Hernandez will also face Dr. Stevie and Raven earlier on in the show.
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| Barbed Wire Massacre and Full Metal Mayhem matches also on the show.
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| Jeff Hardy is in TNA attacking Homicide after Homicide attacked everyone with a baton in the Steel Asylum match.
Even though there were the rumours still good to see it actually happen. Shannon Moore also there backstage shown on camera high fiving Jeff.
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| New Knockouts Champion - ODB
And RIC FLAIR has arrived.
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| Hogan and Bischoff saying everyone needs to earn their spot in TNA (basically saying it's not going to be like WCW was) and if they're not down with that go North - Hall, Waltman and Nash not happy.
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| Winners and NEW TNA Knockouts Tag Team Champions - Awesome Kong & Hamada.
Val Venis playing strip poker with The Beautiful People, hope him being in TNA is just a one night appearance.
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| Well the Matt Morgan & Hernandez vs Dr. Stevie and Raven match was a squash, Morgan winning with The Carbon Footprint (Big Boot)
The Pope interview, Orlando Jordan interupted and Pope ripped him apart.
Pope vs Desmond Wolfe now.
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| Quote ="lister"New Knockouts Champion - ODB'"
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| Samoa Joe vs Abyss 1 on 1 instead, Rhino got attacked backstage. Better match is the outcome actually.
Main Event confirmed as AJ Styles vs Kurt Angle.
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| Brian Danielson wrestled a Raw dark match tonight apparantly.
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| AJ Styles vs Kurt Angle was fantastic, PPV type quality.
Glad we have Advertising Standards in the UK though because the amount of ads they have over there is bad.
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| Quote ="lister"[uNew Knockouts Champion - ODB[/u
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| Loved seeing Bret back and loved the new remix of his music - obviously shows he'll be around for a little while if they've bothered putting that together.
As for TNA, not watched it yet so can't judge. But getting Jeff Hardy is a huge coo for them. Not too sure about Waltman, Hall, Flair and especially the Nasty Boys though.
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| Sorry but apart from the Angle v Styles match, the rest of impact was atrocious. Hogan introducing his geriatric mates & Sting in the rafters. It was an episode of Nitro when Nitro had hit the skids. if last night was make or break for TNA then they're bolloxed. Thank God tmost of you are only subjected to 2 hours of it.
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| Going off the results which is all I have to base my opinion on - I can understand why you have that view.
The critics don't seem to agree however.
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| Steel Asylum - Was a fast paced fun opener, shame they had Homicide with the baton as the finish and then after the bell a slow escape where he got stuck. That finish and botched escape took away from it in order to set up Hardy coming in, I don't think that would have been the normal finish. Good to see Hardy back if he can keep himself right.
Tara vs. ODB - Was a bit short of a match for a title change to happen, Tara should have kept the title for longer and the title change happen on PPV in my opinion.
Awesome Kong & Hamada vs. Taylor Wilde & Sarita - This actually got a good amount of time and was quite a good match.
Raven & Dr. Stevie vs. Matt Morgan & Hernandez - Far too short of a match to showcase what Morgan and Hernandez can really do, should have dropped some segments or adverts to make more time for this. Also feel this should have been match 3 to split up the Knockouts matches.
Desmond Wolfe vs. Pope D’Angelo Dinero - decent match if a little short, would like to see them face off again in a longer match at a later date. Pope was brilliant on the mic before the match putting Orlando Jordan down.
Abyss vs. Samoa Joe - first 1 on 1 match between these 2 in TNA, I liked this match but also would have liked to see more.
Kurt Angle vs. AJ Styles - Match of the night, brilliant match for free TV but they should have gone commercial free with it, to offer a even better alternative against Vince and Bret.
The segments should have been spaced out a bit, sometimes they had really big gaps between matches. And far too many long advert breaks, with being used to UK advertising where there are around 15 minutes between breaks usually (apart from NFL but with that the break is very short) these breaks were happening every few minutes and lasted for minutes in some cases. They could have dropped some segments and cut some adverts in order to increase match time and improve pacing of the show, they had a good card and the show really could have been improved with more match time.
It was a special though and they had surprises that they wouldn't normally have, it will be interesting to see how TNA moves on in the coming weeks. They have TV tapings for next weeks iMPACT! tonight.
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| I dont know what TNA was like last night but WWE definitely upped thier game....I thought Raw was awesome last night. Storyline great and the matches were high quility.
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| Like Lister said the matches were all too short. 7 matches in 3 hours with 6 of them being 5 minutes max. And two of them were a botchfest.
20 minutes of ads & here's the next 3 yards of Hogans limo pulling up. " He's just around the corner" from Tennay. Christ how big is a corner that takes 20 minutes.
Then 15 minutes which was essentially "TNAmaniacs, brother, fans, brother, hype brother, pose" Wolfpack looking every bit their age. Nasty Boys, Hall, Sean Morley, Sting in the rafters.
Jeff Jarrett 10 minute pat on the back, then a set up for Foley v Hogan.
It was WCW at it's worst. The only way it could get any worse was to hang the belt on Brian Nobbs & re-name the legends belt the "Chris Beniot's a Murderer Commemorative" Belt. Still give them a couple of weeks.
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apparently he's been a naughty boy [edit.... last september
[urlhttp://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/wrestling/2634697/Jeff-Hardy-arrested-for-drug-trafficking.html[/url
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