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Evil world we live in sometimes.

Quote ="flipper"another lovely story on the same page www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpoo ... -27998439/ wtf is wrong with some people?'" Should ignore the Geneva Convention when it comes to them...

Quote ="flipper"another lovely story on the same page www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpoo ... -27998439/ wtf is wrong with some people?'" Should ignore the Geneva Convention when it comes to them...

Some more names linked to Everton:

Yannick Djalo
Jay Bothroyd
Dale Jennings
Adam Hammill
Chris Eagles
Charlie Austin
Steve Morrison
Charlie Adam

Further rumoured 'outs':

Seamus Coleman (Spurs or Chelsea)
Jack Rodwell (Man U)
John Heitinga (Ajax)
James Vaughan (Palace)

Hoping they are all wrong to be honest. I know the club is financially weak compared to most Premier League sides, but those lists sound like they have bought tickets to the Championship. I'm still praying for some exciting young foreign player to sign or for the club to pull some big name loan signing out of the hat.

If there is anyone on here again who protests that Mark Hughes was harshly treated, I present you Joleon Lescott.

This is quite clearly one of the worst centre halves I have ever seen in a City shirt yet Hughes spent weeks, maybe months, chasing his signature. Moyes took the out of him and ended up receiving £25 million.

In the three months following his signing, we were a defensive shambles and Hughes paid the ultimate price. Put this guy in the side now and we are equally as bad. Luckily, it has not cost us a point yet and after tonight I am sure Mancini will see the light as everyone else does. It's happening every time he plays. Lescott is a pub player and if Everton fans ever rated him then it says a lot about their limited ambitions in football.

Moyes made Hughes look a right dick over this move. Thank Christ Hughes has gone and I really do believe Mancini has now finally seen this imposter for what he is.

Lescott was brilliant at Everton. Perhaps better at left back but a star.in either position. Perhaps its just better coaching at Everton than City. Moyes has made Mancini look daft a couple of times already.

watched Man City v Leicester City last night and would just like to congratulate the referee on having a great game - this guy has been through personal hell and survived and it's great to see him back
Well played Mr Halsey - one day maybe all referees will be like you ?

The Poznan?

If I were Dalglish I would do everything possible to get Suarez, he looks an outstanding striker. Think he will cost about £30m though.

It has got worse during the 00's for some reason.

Where does it say an Everton fan did it btw? He says he thinks it might have been. The other rumour is that a Red knew a blue was in there so slashed his throat?

Either way, regardless, this shouldn't happen between human beings regardless of whether it was to do with football.

Think its more to do with Lescott's ego. He came to Everton all shy and Moyes got the best out of him, by the end nobody bothered with JL as he thought he was a little more important than he was. As is being proved now at Man City.

Mark Halsey is a great ref. Very fair and and without an ego. Glad he's back.

Moyes made Hughes look daft. He hasn't made Mancini look daft. Sure you have beaten us the last three times you played us but the last one was a complete travesty.

Lescott's form is nothing to do with coaching. It's his complete lack of concentration and rash decision making that is his problem. He is a disaster waiting to happen every time he takes the field.

To be honest, you are about the first Everton fan I have come across who has actually said that they thought he was a great player for you. The vast majority I have met did not think he was fit to lace Jagielka's boots.

The fans who claim to have not rated or liked Lescott are just bitter about his move and how he went about it, particularly how he approached his last game for Everton. He was brilliant for us. Defensively solid and he would go on long penetrating runs from either centre back or left back. Any games where we were losing late on would see him thrown up front in an attempt to get a goal.

I've never been a regular at Everton but went to quite a few during his spell at Everton. He was always one of the most popular players throughout his spell. Plenty of clamour for him to play for England and lots of chanting towards him.

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Nah, I've not snapped, just aggressively ranting to amuse myself, oxymoronically. But, in all honesty, how Rooney behaved was worse than what Babel done, IMO, but it highlights how obtuse the FA and their rulings are.

Questioning a refs integrity is far worse than having a pop at the ref. If they charged Rooney they'd have the charge the majority of LFC squad each week.

'Having a pop'? You see, you intentionally 'minimize' Rooney's offence to having a pop. It was a full-scaled verbal assault. Babel was guilty of foolishness or re-tweeting a picture suggested many things, one of those being cheating, but I think it was simple 'banter', that's not LFC bias, it was stupid for a professional to involve himself in such childish banter, but I believe that's all it was. Whereas with Rooney, I feel it exceeded the proverbial line, there's challenging a ref, there's getting your point across, then there's that. Foul, abusive and needlessly aggressive, but nothing has been said of it, that's what I don't get. I'm not saying clamp down on everything (although we should eventually follow RL), but there are some cases, like Ashley Cole's a few years back, like Mascherano's and like Rooney's on the weekend, that are simply 'too far', to the point where the FA have to step in and act on the player's behaviour.

Getting into a widge measuring contest about what was worse bores me, but the fact one has been acted on, whilst the other has been completely ignored, speaks volumes about the FA and how farcical their dictatorship of English football is.

poor wind up attempt Rob - 'one of those is cheating', the whole suggestion of it, on a social networking site was that Webb was a cheat or biased..i can't see what else it might have suggested.

My opinion of Lescott was that he gained an enhanced reputation at Goodison, due to his outstanding goalscoring record.....As a defender he was decent, not brilliant. Certainly, if Hughes truly 'scouted' Lescott, then I don't know how he came away wanting Lescott and not Jagielka, because Jags is the better defender.

I actually thought Lescott was a better full back than centre half.....As a centre half, he often struggled in the air, which isn't something you want in a guy you are paying £20m+ for!!

He was saying the ref was on your side for the day, which some people see as a full scale attack on the ref, claiming him to be a cheat. I see it as a sort of jovial picture, retweeted in such a way that would be seen as casual banter between supporters. He got involved, he shouldn't have, but I don't think anybody seriously believed Webb actually cheated, they just deemed him biased to the home side and coincidentally poor. There are various ways to look at it, but that's how I look at it when I consider Babel's idiotic character and his quite childish ways on Twitter. You, being a United fan, will see it as an indefensible suggestion of cheating, obviously, which is fair enough, but I still think when you look at the two situations for exactly what they were, Rooney's behaviour was deserving of similar punishment.

I think the main difference between the Rooney incident and Babels brain fart is that the Rooney incident was a heat of the moment thing. He was most definitely in the wrong and got a booking for his troubles but has probably got away with it in the main due to it having been in the heat of the battle. You really can't compare the two incidents if truth be told.

I think Lescott is one of those players that needs to be playing every week to stay sharp both physically and in terms of his decision making. He made a sluggish start at City, then for a couple of months played very well, but then had a couple of injuries and has never re-found any form. He may have been a better full back at Everton but when he's played there for City he's looked very uncomfortable.

On the whole Rooney rant etc etc etc watch the Gerrard red card from the other week. Webb has Torres, Agger, Reina (remember this was on the half way line), Lucas and Auralio all crowding him having a full blown whinge, so when do they receive there FA charges?

Oh and as Gerrard is leaving the pitch he says something aimed at the nited fans that is ether "**** off you manc ****'s" or "**** off you Munich ****'s" being that horrible crease head it'd probably be the latter

They certainly do.

I wasn't trying to compare them as such just they situations they are in, I agree with what you're saying but Bale wasn't a second thought 18 months or so ago and now he's flying. Even if he's reached his peak he can still do an excellent job for Spurs, he's a hard working midfielder and his skill and quick feet would be welcome in any team but like you I'm not too fussed he's gone as he's easily replaced. Charlie Adam would be awesome replacement but doubt we can afford him.



He was brilliant for us and I haven't found an Evertonian who wouldn't say the same thing, I've seen his demise at City also and you'll obviously see more of him than me these days but for us he was superb, his defending was brilliant, good tackling, crisp passing and could fit either left back or centre half plus he scored goals too. He very rarely made mistakes and he never had rash decsions in him. As good as Jags as been for us he was the one more likely to make a mistake. He could be a confidence player, he doesn't play all too often for you does he? whereas for us he started every week when available.

Arsenal 1-0 up. The elegant Nasri.