i might have a VB soon

Yet another batsman gets in, does the hardowrk then gets out.

We're the worst test match batting team in the world(outside of Bangladesh).

Rubbish.

You obviously weren't watching the West Indies over here then.

Yup, we seem to think getting 60-70 is good enough, we never go on with an inngs, well not often anyway.

Lets be fair.............they we're freezing



In all honesty we're not far off that level because the players aren't disciplined enough to go on with their innings. They just seem to get bored like Collingwood or lose concentration like Bell or Strauss did.

I suppose it's because they're so used to getting their fair share of dross served up on a regular basis at County level.

As for Trott- surely it won't be long before he's out LBW playing the way he is.

Not sure how you work that out given the amount of county cricket they actually play. IMO its the lack of county cricket for a lot of them thats the problem.

Shane Warne seems rather pre-occupied with Lily Allen in the crowd. I was sure he was willing her to check her text messages.

No pressure Fred, in you come...

That explains why your such an idiot drinking that shoite, pretty soon that brain cell you have may start to fail

They have been brought up on it though.

All of them have learnt their trade in county cricket and the element of getting easy runs isn't there in test match cricket.

Old habits die hard imo although i do agree abit more match practice at times wouldn't go amiss just for confidence reasons.

South African idiot

A bit harsh...was a daft mistake but nowhere near as ridiculous as Bell, Prior or Flintoff's dismissals...if the pitch keeps on breaking up and turning as it has done already, 330+ could well be a competitive score...we just need to try and set them something challenging and spin em out!!

A good plan, but for the fact we only have Swann as our spinner.

VB vitamin B yummy yummy

I think for us winning the match depends on the long shot that Flintoff and Harmison are both on song. Harmison has been in good form for Durham this year and the Oval pitch should suit him, if him and Flintoff on his last hurrah can be bowling 92mph plus and Harmison in one of those moods where every ball is kicking up to the batsmans neck, then we can do the Aussies for 250-300, which is what we will need.

Interesting listening to Warne tonight, he reckons 330-350 could be a decent score now on this pitch. Also said it might suit the taller, bang it in bowlers like Fred and Harmo who should get uneven bounce aswell as Swann with the way the pitch is crumbling and turning.

Still the first day was frustrating, a bit more application and we could have been only 5 down.

Yes, irrespective of how the pitch deteriorates, it was still good enough yesterday for a score of say 330-5.

The word that sums up watching England.

We should have made 450 on this pitch after being 176-2 even if it's not the best oval wicket ever.

If we'd have done that we'd be in a great position. As it stands we probably need another 50 tail end runs this morning to be close to par.

The Aussies won't make less then 400 imo.

Anyone now how accurate the sky sports speedo is??

If Shane Watson was bowling at 89mph (absolutely no chance whatsoever!!) and Siddle was getting to near 94mph then I dread to think what an on-fire Flintoff could reach!!

And what would Waqar and Wasim be reaching, 150mph???

332 all out


I expect the aussies will plunder 600 and kill the game off

No chance, not on this wicket.

500 then...

332 keeps us in the game and in a reasonable position providing we bowl well. The trouble is another 50-70 runs would have put us in a really strong position.

I reckon they would take 400 right now

lets hope the aussie's don't lose