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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Few rumours going around today that were on the verge of signing someone called Zac Whitbread a CB who played for Liverpool, appartently at Millwall now. we are very strong at Centre back with Turner, Gardner, Zayatte and Mouyokolo so cant see how he would fit in TBH, unless Brown plans on playing him right back..
Any Liverpool fans know much about him?'"
He is awful, deary me. Never gonna make it in PL.
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| Quote ="Dan_FC"He is awful, deary me. Never gonna make it in PL.'"
Good he'll come to us then, has to be better than Garry Monk
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| Quote ="Dan_FC"He is awful, deary me. Never gonna make it in PL.'"
TBF tho Charlton thought the same about Turner
Hopefully IF we sign Whitbread he will do the same as Turner but its a hell of a step up from League1 to Premier League
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Great post
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The post echoed my thoughts
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| Quote ="airliebird9"The post echoed my thoughts
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So why arent we strong there? Gardner when fit is nearly as good as Turner, Zayatte was one of our best players last season but made 2 or 3 bad mistakes at crucial stages but is a good back up along with Mouoykolo who looked good against Spurs and must have somthing about him if Arsenal and Real Madrid was looking at him
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| Quote ="Dan_FC"He is awful, deary me. Never gonna make it in PL.'"
I hardly remember seeing him, I think I seen him in a pre-season game once and thought he was dire. Had white hair IIRC.
Let's be honest, Turner has hardly 'made it'. He was part of one of the worst defences in the league last year in a side, who, for the majority of the season, played sh*t negative footy. When he's done it for 2-3 seasons, or is playing consistently for a top side, then it's fair to say he's made it to the PL level. But I still have my doubts.
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"So why arent we strong there? Gardner when fit is nearly as good as Turner, Zayatte was one of our best players last season but made 2 or 3 bad mistakes at crucial stages but is a good back up along with Mouoykolo who looked good against Spurs and must have somthing about him if Arsenal and Real Madrid was looking at him'"
Real Madrid and Arsenal were looking at him but he turned them down to sign for the mighty Hull City? Righto.
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"Real Madrid and Arsenal were looking at him but he turned them down to sign for the mighty Hull City? Righto.'"
You obviously dont know the difference between looking and offering...
So obviously Arsenal and Real Madrid never did the latter but he still looks a decent signing
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"You obviously dont know the difference between looking and offering...
So obviously Arsenal and Real Madrid never did the latter but he still looks a decent signing'"
So in other words, they looked at him and decided he was e and that's why he's ended up at Hull City. If they were really looking at him and actually interested at all, he'd be your first choice centre back but it sounds like he's going to be third or even fourth choice.
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"So why arent we strong there? Gardner when fit is nearly as good as Turner, '"
Like Robbie Rotten said, he was part of one of the worst defences in the League. It isn't a sign of strength. Otherwise other PL clubs would be buying them.
Quote ="Thetalentboy"Zayatte was one of our best players last season but made 2 or 3 bad mistakes at crucial stages but is a good back up'"
Right, so one of your best players is a good back up? That's probably why you were almost relegated.
Quote ="Thetalentboy"along with Mouoykolo who looked good against Spurs and must have somthing about him if Arsenal and Real Madrid was looking at him'"
The same Arsenal who despite having Senderos and Silvestre decided against buying him?
Big clubs look at loads of players in all Leagues at all levels every week, and sometimes they even buy them, doesn't mean they're any good though.
See Eric Djemba-Djemba and Klebersen for two wonderful examples.
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Quote ="airliebird9"The post echoed my thoughts
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So why arent we strong there? Gardner when fit is nearly as good as Turner, Zayatte was one of our best players last season but made 2 or 3 bad mistakes at crucial stages but is a good back up along with Mouoykolo who looked good against Spurs and must have somthing about him if Arsenal and Real Madrid was looking at him'" '"
Turner had a decent season and turned a few heads with his consistency. However, along with Zayatte (who you say was one of your better players) they were the central part of a defence that conceded 64 goals!! A stat only beaten by bottom club West Brom's 67 goals against. That's almost 1.7 goals/game and with a defence leaking goals like that you're gonna need Fernando Torres and Wayne Rooney at the other end to keep you up this season!!!!!
Oh and by the way, I know what I'm talking about coz Leeds 'looked' at me when I was a lad
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Imagine not getting a game for them. You must be shiite.'"
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Few rumours going around today that were on the verge of signing someone called Zac Whitbread a CB who played for Liverpool, appartently at Millwall now. we are very strong at Centre back with Turner, Gardner, Zayatte and Mouyokolo so cant see how he would fit in TBH, unless Brown plans on playing him right back..
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By Brown and Duffen cashing in on Turner. Their approach to the coming season has shown almost zero ambition, they're almost guaranteed to be bottom 2 IMO, so I don't think it will be long before the 4 or 5 top-flight level players move on TBH. They've had a great opportunity and not shown enough intent to make the most of it. They don't deserve to be in the premier league.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"By Brown and Duffen cashing in on Turner. Their approach to the coming season has shown almost zero ambition, they're almost guaranteed to be bottom 2 IMO, so I don't think it will be long before the 4 or 5 top-flight level players move on TBH. They've had a great opportunity and not shown enough intent to make the most of it. They don't deserve to be in the premier league.'"
I actually think Turner will stay until January as i dont think anyone will match our asking orice of £12m,
Have to say i kind of agree about the lack of ambition we should of been looking to build on last season but it now looks like the squad for the opening game is gunna be weaker than last season and will be 20 times harder this season to stay up
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"By Brown and Duffen cashing in on Turner. Their approach to the coming season has shown almost zero ambition, they're almost guaranteed to be bottom 2 IMO, so I don't think it will be long before the 4 or 5 top-flight level players move on TBH. They've had a great opportunity and not shown enough intent to make the most of it. They don't deserve to be in the premier league.'"
Brown and Duffen look to have blown it to me, unless they can produce 3/4 decent signings in the next month. Brown is a clown at times, I think he is looking for a move off the back of the job he's done at City.
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"So in other words, they looked at him and decided he was e and that's why he's ended up at Hull City. If they were really looking at him and actually interested at all, he'd be your first choice centre back but it sounds like he's going to be third or even fourth choice.
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He can't be that bad otherwise he would have gone to Geordie land and that joke of a club
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Brown and Duffen look to have blown it to me, unless they can produce 3/4 decent signings in the next month. Brown is a clown at times, I think he is looking for a move off the back of the job he's done at City.'"
Maybe the Newcastle job, where he could have the recruitment done for him. His efforts in the transfer market have been pretty woeful overall.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I saw 'he likea do the cha-cha, like a sissy girl'.
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"I actually think Turner will stay until January as i dont think anyone will match our asking orice of £12m,
Have to say i kind of agree about the lack of ambition we should of been looking to build on last season but it now looks like the squad for the opening game is gunna be weaker than last season and will be 20 times harder this season to stay up'"
They won't, because it's ridiculous. But I think £9m could shift him and is possibly attainable. It makes me laugh that Brown has criticised the inflated prices about but then contradicted it with Turner. Also, he complained he couldn't even sign championship players (Ledley & McCormack) for less than £5m, whilst having a £6m bid on the table for Fraizer Campbell, on the basis of 1 good championship season. He likes making noises but talks little sense. It's like the Ricketts sale, he's now said he was offered Nicky Hunt as part of the deal but wasn't interested. Why not? He's a decent right back, certainly better than not having one at all, or possibly paying a small fortune for 31 year old Habib Beye.
I agree it's a weaker squad with a more difficult task in prospect. I still think Duffen and Brown have one eye on the championship TBH, and that's what's held them back. The talk of Owen was complete rubbish, he was never going to even contemplate playing for Hull City. I can't think of a single player linked to them this summer who fits the criteria of the sort of player they need. As Paul M said, they've blown it.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"They won't, because it's ridiculous. But I think £9m could shift him and is possibly attainable. It makes me laugh that Brown has criticised the inflated prices about but then contradicted it with Turner. Also, he complained he couldn't even sign championship players (Ledley & McCormack) for less than £5m, whilst having a £6m bid on the table for Fraizer Campbell, on the basis of 1 good championship season. He likes making noises but talks little sense. It's like the Ricketts sale, he's now said he was offered Nicky Hunt as part of the deal but wasn't interested. Why not? He's a decent right back, certainly better than not having one at all, or possibly paying a small fortune for 31 year old Habib Beye.
I agree it's a weaker squad with a more difficult task in prospect. I still think Duffen and Brown have one eye on the championship TBH, and that's what's held them back. The talk of Owen was complete rubbish, he was never going to even contemplate playing for Hull City. I can't think of a single player linked to them this summer who fits the criteria of the sort of player they need. As Paul M said, they've blown it.'"
Today's links are with Beye, Barton and Jozy Altidore for £6m from Villareal. It seems to me they need two strikers and another midfielder, preferably a wide player if Bullard is going to be fit. The defence looks decent enough with the new signing, Gardner, Turner and Zayatte. I also don't understand why Brown keeps wanting to play Mendy at fullback, he is dynamite with the ball and should be playing as a winger where he could really hurt teams with his pace.
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| Whitbread is a good player...in League One.
On the transfer list at Millwall because he wants to leave to play at a higher level. Though I think he's more of a Championship standard player, so maybe he'll fit in at Hull.
At Liverpool he showed some promise, but like so many youngsters (wrongly or rightly) was let go.
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