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Serves me right for not checking the page before

well done for admitting it.

Much as Robben is doing well at Madrid now, its only a matter of time before he spends another lengthy spell on the treatment table. He's incredibly fragile and I'd say that gives Robino an edge over him as an investment, which is what football transfers are about.

It goes on opinion and preference.

I think Robben (when fit) is a better player.

He's done alright with injuries this year, and has been one of Madrid's stars.

Nah, he is leaving the club for his son to run.

Please answer my question: What has he done in the last two years? If he is wortld class he would still be an excellent player





Ronaldo? Nowhere near as effective as Robihno at international level. I'll judge him once he has played in Spain (next season).

Messi? Best player in the world

Ribery? Don't be daft.

Robben? IMO he's the equal of Ronaldo

Interesting that you regard Robihno as an out-and-out winger. He's more of a forward. It's his best position. IMO he's the best No10 in the PL.



Your specifying the type of midfielder. Can I say then that in terms of wingers, Robihno is the best 'predominantly right-footed but plays on the left and scores a few' in the world?

Robihno and Mascherano cannot be compared. Being a good tackler and keeping it simple doesn't make you one of the best players in the world. If it does, then you you are easily pleased. He can do a specific job and be effective, but never world class. Meanwhile Robihno has been excellent for Brazil - arguably the best team in the world.

Please explain how you can be top class and not be able to pass the ball consistently over 20 yards to a player in your own team?

I don't think its daft to suggest Ribery is at least the equal of Robinho. He is the driving force behind both his club and country. Their over-reliance upon him was their downfall at Euro 2008.

As an out & out Winger, I'd take Walcott over him. I think Robinho is pretty poor out wide to be honest. I've not seem him cross a ball in or beat a man on the outside etc. I think Robinho is an off the frontman or even a frontman, just not in the 'English' sense of it. He scored his goals for City through the middle like, I haven't seen too many where he's cut in from the left and bent it into the top corner etc. I think if you asked Robinho to stay out wide you'd negate everything good about him, he doesn't keep his width, he's far more effective infield, Hughes offers him this flexibillity, years ago, I think we'd have called it a 'Free Role.

I think Robinho is an excellent footballer, you still worry about him this time of year, any Brazilian in English football really, you sense they'll dip this time of the year, he'll finish the season with City strongly you'd think say March onwards.

In terms of English football, the cut & thrust of nature of it, I think Walcott could well go an to be a real stand out player in our league. It's a shame he got injured when he was really showing signs of developing. He was arguably Arsenals biggest threat early doors this season.

Ribery is an excellent footballer, why people knock him (I think somebody has on this thread). He's picked Bayern Munich off the floor single handedly since returning from injury.

EE, are you on a wind up mission today?



You will only judge Ronaldo when he's played in Spain? Have a word! Robinho is more effective at international level? Come on man, Robinho plays with better players and against inferior opposition at international level.

You're dismissal of Ribery has shown you up a bit on this thread fella. I know you're still a bit giddy, and are no doubt wearing a tea towel on your head as you type, but come back to the real world.

Robinho is w[ia[/ink.

2 goals away from home this season (including one pen) would suggest that Robinho goes hiding now and again.

This England team is full of some incredible players. We now have a world class right-winger as well as producing the best goalkeepers, defenders (Terry, Ferdinand and Carragher), midfielders (F and Gerrard), wingers (Ashley Cole and Theo Walcott) and strikers (Michael Owen). Surely we must be the best team in the world ever. We have had quality coaches likes Sven but we still look average. There must be a spell over us or somethink






Robihno has beaten players outwide. Much more than Petrov did for us. It doesn't always work but still I think your point is incorrect about him not bneating a man on the outside. Robihno's best assets are his decision-making and first touch. I have honestly never seen a player in the Prem who has a better first touch. Berbatov is probably the next best in terms of first touch.

If memory serves, Robihno has scored about 3 goals coming in from the left. AS couple in the top right-hand corner.

It will be interesting to see what Hughes does when Petrov is fit. he may put Robihno upfront with a target man. Personally, I think that's the way to go.




Walcott has raw talent but a terrible first touch. He'll need to imrpove that if he has any hope being a top player.

Teams in Copa America are inferior? Interesting.

I referred to Ronaldo playing in Spain because, let's face it, he doesn't look happy. I also happen to think another league would be a good test because he often looks poor when playing in Europe against teams with decent defences. I remember when he was on top form and he came up against Milan. In both legs he didn't look a quality player. I don't think it was unreasionable to say I will wait for him to play in another league before judging him.





I don't think Ribery is garbage. Not at all. I just think in terms of ability he is not (yet) comparable to Robihno. He has played well in Germany but then the Bundesliga is weak. This year in particular, the quality has been poor.

Tea towel? Don't be daft. I'm far too bourgois for that. I use a silk scarf instead

not hard to stand out in this year's madrid team

Who was top scorer in the champions league last year?

Graeme Hick used to be top scorer in the County Championship on a regular basis. He was a flat-track bully.

Very poor.

Robinho isnt fit to lace Riberys boots.

And EEs comments on Ronaldo are hilarious

EE has been smoking something.

I belive that outside of Brazil & Argentina, quality is thin on the ground in South America.



Ronaldo was outstanding in the champions league last year, and the top scorer in the competition. Without him, United would not've reached the final. I don't like the him as a person, and have seem my ar*e with him big time over the actions over the summer, but you surely cannot questions his quality.



I'd question that. The quality of the league German league is pretty good. Regardless, what Ribery has done for Bayern and France has, in my opinion, elevated him to the top echelon of world football.



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I am not sure whether you're out purely for the wind up with this or not. If you are you've played a blinder, if not, you've surprised me as you often* talk a lot of sense.

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Very short-term memory you have there. Bergkamp, Henry, Zola, Gullit, Cantona, just off the top of my head. There have been some players with magical first touches in the recent past, inclusing some of the lesser-remembered names. Robinho is without doubt class, but I think perhaps you're building him up a shade as an almost all-time great, which he isn't (at least yet).

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