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| It's good to see that Clive's return and first cast of his line has netted enough of the usual suspects to turn it into a "my game's better than yours" argument.
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| Quote ="Meefy"Dave Ellis I assume?'"
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| Quote ="Clive Woody"I was talking with a fellow rugby fan and he described the game of league as obscene. He really was spot on.
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So, unlike my friend, your yawnion apologist & yourself likely have no experience of rugby other than listening to Eddie & Stevo. That apart, brilliant riposte.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"It's good to see that Clive's return and first cast of his line has netted enough of the usual suspects to turn it into a "my game's better than yours" argument.
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And so it begins (Again)
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| Whats all this I hear about barclays bank stepping in and rescuing the WRU from going bankrupt?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Just wait til Johnson gets hold of them, it'll go from 10 man rugby to 8 man rugby - you might as well pick back rowers on the wings and centres as they'll never see the ball.'"
I will be interested in learning where you picked up this inside knowledge of Johnson's coaching style.
As I believe he has never coached anybody, don't you think you are doing him a great diservice?
As the most influential and dynamic leader England have ever had on the field, surely he deserves for us to wait a period before we pass judgement.
It is not he who will be doing the coaching anyway.
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| Quote ="nokiddin"I will be interested in learning where you picked up this inside knowledge of Johnson's coaching style.
As I believe he has never coached anybody, don't you think you are doing him a great diservice?
As the most influential and dynamic leader England have ever had on the field, surely he deserves for us to wait a period before we pass judgement.
It is not he who will be doing the coaching anyway.'"
He's a forward.
Show me one British forward who has moved into coaching and is renowned for an attractive, expansive style of play.
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| As I understand it his principal role will be management, not coaching, so his playing position is irrelevant surely?
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| Quote ="nokiddin"As I understand it his principal role will be management, not coaching, so his playing position is irrelevant surely?'"
Well, if that's the case, why did Ashton get shafted out of his job as [i "Head Coach"[/i then?
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| Ashton was Head Coach.
The stucture has now been changed with the introduction of Johnson and Rob Andrew
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| If what I saw of this mornings tri-series game is anything to go by Rugby Union as it was, no longer exists.
The war is almost over.
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| There are over 2million registered, english rugby union players according to the chairman of sale sharks
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| Quote ="nokiddin"Ashton was Head Coach.
The stucture has now been changed with the introduction of Johnson and Rob Andrew'"
Oh that changes everything - if Rob Andrew is coaching a team in his own image, then England will be bristling with flair and expansive back play.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"If ever a team on the field reflected its management then it was England in New Zealand. Devoid of ideas beyond hoof it and chase, poor in defence and negative in all facets of the game.'" we just smashed ''the all blacks'' ''springboks'' last week looking good
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| Quote ="tvoc"If what I saw of this mornings tri-series game is anything to go by Rugby Union as it was, no longer exists.
The war is almost over.'"
I take it that it was played in a manner more suited to RL ?
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| From what I saw of it, it was very quick with the ball in play approaching League levels. The scrums were less intense and the line outs were few and far between. Nearly all the penalties were run from the mark rather than hoofed upfield for the line out.
It looks like there's been some serious dabbling with the laws and the result looks like a kick in the nuts to the die hard Union traditionalists.
At least that was the impression I got.
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| Quote ="tvoc"From what I saw of it, it was very quick with the ball in play approaching League levels. The scrums were less intense and the line outs were few and far between. Nearly all the penalties were run from the mark rather than hoofed upfield for the line out.
It looks like there's been some serious dabbling with the laws and the result looks like a kick in the nuts to the die hard Union traditionalists.
At least that was the impression I got.'"
It's similar to League in the approach to rule making. The Aussies identify areas of the game where they're not dominant then try to get them taken out of the equation.
Most of the offences at the ruck and maul under the ELVs are free kicks now rather than penalties, which is why so many would have been run rather than kicked.
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| What did Lawrence Dayglo do then?
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| Quote ="Jimmythecuckoo"What did Lawrence Dayglo do then?'"
He was [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/351533.stmdone up like a kipper[/url by the News of The World ten years ago
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"I take it that it was played in a manner more suited to RL ?'"
It is impossible to play RU properly " in a manner more suited to RL".
Read Brian Moore's article in this morning's Telegraph and he proves that the myth about kicks to touch and length of time of ball in play etc.being worse in the 6 nations than in the SH is just that, a myth.
Similarly he proves that with the ELVs the game is no different a spectacle to what it was without them.
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| Quote ="tvoc"From what I saw of it, it was very quick with the ball in play approaching League levels. The scrums were less intense and the line outs were few and far between. Nearly all the penalties were run from the mark rather than hoofed upfield for the line out.
It looks like there's been some serious dabbling with the laws and the result looks like a kick in the nuts to the die hard Union traditionalists.
At least that was the impression I got.'" Its been similar in Super14 even before the ELV's at the end of the day aif you're playing in nice dry conditions you're going to throw the ball around, if on the other hand you play most of your season in p@ssing down rain and mud, your going to need to protect the ball more, its one of the most basic concepts of Rugby, League or Union.
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| Quote ="nokiddin"It is impossible to play RU properly " in a manner more suited to RL".
Read Brian Moore's article in this morning's Telegraph and he proves that the myth about kicks to touch and length of time of ball in play etc.being worse in the 6 nations than in the SH is just that, a myth.
Similarly he proves that with the ELVs the game is no different a spectacle to what it was without them.'"
George, what a waste of an expensive minor grammar school education.
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| [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/7547112.stmCommon sense and a fair go![/url
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| Quote ="Charmless Nerk"[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/7547112.stmCommon sense and a fair go![/url
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If he was that unhappy about what the Bulldogs were offering, why did he sign the contract in the first place?
Thinks he's Cristiano Ronaldo doesn't he?
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