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| Quote ="citywolf"This but I think, Cena will beat The Rock and even the score. They need to get the title off Rock (ridiculous to give it to him in the first place) to ge some normality back.
Also I can't see a Cena heel turn for the simple reason there is nobody to take his place as number 1 face. I they were going to do it they would have done it when Punk was a red hot face.'"
Read somewhere (not sure where think it was pw.net or lop) they are thinking of turning punk again to feud with lesnar after mania upto summer slam .....
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| Quote ="citywolf"This but I think, Cena will beat The Rock and even the score. They need to get the title off Rock (ridiculous to give it to him in the first place) to ge some normality back.
Also I can't see a Cena heel turn for the simple reason there is nobody to take his place as number 1 face. I they were going to do it they would have done it when Punk was a red hot face.'"
I think Punk was a 'red hot face' for about three months in total but other than I agree with you. Though it'd be good for Cena and the overall product if he turned heel, it would not be good for business. And unfortunately you hear that far too often in this day and age.
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Y2J
Dolph / Big E
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ADR (and i hope Dolph cashes in)
Rhodes Scholars / Bellas
Taker
Cena
Not sure about Lesnar-HHH, maybe he actually is keen on hanging the boots up for good.
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| I think the likely outcome of Lesnar-HHH is a HHH win. It went the other way last time they faced off and there's all the stuff in the build up which says HHH has to win as he's the face and this should be the big blow off match for their feud.
The way they're building up Cena vs Rock, you'd think Cena was going to turn heel and make some deal with The Shield or Paul Heyman to ensure he beats The Rock. Cena is going to get boo'd out of the building, no matter what he does. So if the crowd is going to boo him, why not make him a heel and have those boos mean something?
But WWE won't do that to the golden boy. No, he'll take 20 rock bottoms, 300 people's elbows, be run over by a train, set on fire and STILL jump back up and beat Rock clean in the middle of the ring.
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| I hope match 4 keeps me awake or else im phoning sky for a half refund.
This is mania FFS
Matches crap and we all knew the 3 misfits v shield would be
Back stage !!!!!!!!
And the comentrey
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| Not giving anything away , think its been a prity poor mania up to press .
Also think we have seen the last of the deadman on the big stage which is a pritty dull way to end.
To many matches thrown together in last few weeks.
Remember the times when some matches were retribution for someyhing as farbavk as sumerslam / surviours . Some double crossing storey line etc.
About 6 matches on the card with 1 that involves all the other top card wrestlers.
Im just sooooo bored and ever since the king bless him was ill all the comentrey team kiss and blow o. One another.
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| =#FFFFFFhow did that table not break?
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| what a grossly predictable pile of turd that was. not one surprise.
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| I think Lawrie as slipped into a wwe coma, utter crap.
FFS even Donald Fart showed as per hall of fame line up.
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| Quote ="muttley cat"I think Lawrie as slipped into a wwe coma, utter crap.
FFS even Donald Fart showed as per hall of fame line up.'"
No I typed in white as i didn't want it to be a 'spoiler'
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| That was truly awful.
WWE creative proving once again that they are anything but.
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| finishing moves are done to death these days, they have no special effect whatsoever
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| Matches were mostly predictable but I thought there were some decent contests tbh, Undertaker v Punk stole the show as expected but I actually thought the Lesnar v HHH & Rock v Cena matches were good too
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| WWE creative is made up of television writers being told what to write by Steph McMahon. They have no idea on what makes a good wrestling match, which is why the wrestling on the tv shows is normally relegated to little 5 minute sections which tend to be 3 minutes of entrances, 30 seconds of wrestling and 90 seconds of guys walking away from the ring. Followed by 2 hours of backstage nonsense.
That's also why most of the guys in WWE are so dull these days. They don't get time to build up any character because they're told "this is what you are, this is what you say, do not deviate".
The only good thing you could say about the current banality of WWE is that if they ever get the message that Linda McMahon is NOT going to get elected and they can go back to doing edgier programming the change of pace might actually have an impact.
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| for the main event at the biggest PPV of the year, i thought rock cena was terrible aside from the reaction rock's entrance brought from the crowd.
it really was crap; 15 minutes of punches followed by 15 minutes of finishers and reversals into finishers.
undertaker punk was good, yes. punk really should be the main eventer in wwe, he is second to none in the ring.
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| Last night's Raw more than made up for it. Awesome crowd.
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| Have to say I enjoyed Mania but for the main event. Surely one of the worst ever main events.
Raw, however....
der derr..de de de der der der der der...!
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| Dreadful Mania bar Taker vs Punk.
7 consecutive Mania's Taker has stole the show. Thankfully judging by Raw he'll be around for a little while longer.
I hope to god we've seen the last of the Rock.
HHH and Lesnar was a snoozefest.
I didn't enjoy a single other match though apparently Raw was terrific last night.
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| To be fair, I'm glad the Rock came back. We all were. We'll be even more glad that we won't want him to do any prolonged run again, though I expect to him be on the WM card next year.
Lesnar v HHH was a good story I thought, Taker v Punk was majestic, Punk is fast becoming my all time favourite. I enjoyed the tag titles and Y2J / Fandango matches (despite the botch) too.
Couple of thoughts...
Johnny 'Fandango' Curtis...a star is born. That crowd on Raw will see him become the new Daniel Bryan.
Top of the card on Raw is looking EXTREMELY weak now. Cena v Ryback? FFS!
And finally...
Ziggler needs to be trusted.
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| When Ziggler's music dropped on Raw!! One of the best moments in WWE in recent memory. I was so p*ssed off when The ADR watch came and went at Mania. Last night more than made up for it though. Ziggler has the talent and the presence to be so big! I think he will give the WHC back some credibility. Im more interested in that side of things than another Cena-thon anyway.
That was probably the best Raw in a long time too (Orton/Shemus apart). If only all the crowds were like that. Im a massive Fandango fan too. I was thinking "WTF" when they were doing the promo's leading up to his 1st appearance on Smackdown but as soon as he came out you could tell the character has potential. The leg drop is an awesome move too.
IMO, they need to get rid of team Hell No and push Daniel Bryan again. He's too good to be stuck in that story line mid card.
I don't mind Ryback either. They could make him into a pretty good heel IMO. Speaking of which, any other star but Cena and last night would have been considered a heel turn. TBF, any other crowd than last night and I reckon it would have too
Der derr, der der der der derr der de...
The English guys who started that opposite the main camera have just boosted Fandango's progression out of sight
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| The roar of the crowd when Ziggler came out was almost like the noise of Y2Js debut, amazing
As for Fandango, he has potential to be huge IMO
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| Fandango's theme music has gone from nowhere, to 101st to 60th in the UK charts in the last 12 hours or so
He's 55th on my itunes chart at the moment too. Fandango for the top 40!!!
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| As of 5 mins ago his theme music is 23rd in the iTunes Charts!
Those English fans have a lot to answer for
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| Who else has joined the #FandangoRevolution
Up to 11th now.
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| Quote ="CM Punk"Who else has joined the #FandangoRevolution
Up to 11th now.'"
I joined the #FandangoRevolution when he was at Number 55. I want to see another push today and a top 10 chart spot
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In one way Im gutted, because it would have been epic if Ziggler's music dropped as NO ONE was expecting that. I reckon the pop would have been pretty good too. Saying that, he wouldnt have held the title long as Cena would have been pushed back to the top in no time so I am happy he cashed in on Raw for the WHC. They can focus on building him there and making him into a star.
At a time when you have the part timers coming in and taking over air time I think it can be detrimental to the product. The roster isnt as strong as it once was, but lets see what some of the talented guys can actually do in the spotlight and build the company from there again.
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In one way Im gutted, because it would have been epic if Ziggler's music dropped as NO ONE was expecting that. I reckon the pop would have been pretty good too. Saying that, he wouldnt have held the title long as Cena would have been pushed back to the top in no time so I am happy he cashed in on Raw for the WHC. They can focus on building him there and making him into a star.
At a time when you have the part timers coming in and taking over air time I think it can be detrimental to the product. The roster isnt as strong as it once was, but lets see what some of the talented guys can actually do in the spotlight and build the company from there again.
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