I've done Jaconet in the Dash @ 16's

And in the Derby:-
Rewilding @ 11/2
Bullet Train @ 8/1

Having a outsider bet on Buzzword @ 66/1 E/W a Group 3 winner and placed in Group 1,2 and 3s supplemented because it stayed on well in the French 2,000 Guineas and they want to try further, also stayed on well in the Breeders Cup juvenile race last year.

On breeding, Buzzword should stay the trip well enough but will be vulnerable to anything with an 'X-Factor'.


Outside bet on Pachattack in the 2.40 at Epsom. Bin Suroor says Antara will come on for the run, she's has 290 odd days since her last race. Reggane's trainer unsure if she will handle the course. Butler expects a big, big run from Pachattack so that is where the value may lie with question marks about a lot of the field.

Its pretty open really Jan Vermeer is the stand out on the figures just wish I backed it for this when I backed it last time out think it was 25/1 at the time.

I like having two in big races a strong fancy and an outsider, Buzzword just looks to big of a price at 66 forget about its 2,000 Guineas race here as it was its first run, looking at all its other races its been up close to alot of decent types, if it gets the trip its got place claims.

santas son.3.50.hexham 10/1 change of stable does wonders for some horses, gone to pogson who 3 from 3 on last runners

lenny bee.3.40.muss 8/1 trainer thinks hes the one to beat

estate.3.35.worc 15/2 pipe looks like hes at his usual dodgy dealings with this one!


others at shorter odds

fremen
fear nothing
hawkeyethenoo

15:15E - Jaconnet and Crimea both each-way
16:00E - Rewilding (11/1 early this week)
16:45E - Recession Proof

15:30L - Askanna (interesting one in this too for later in the week provided they let the handbrake off)
16:05L - Campbonnais
17:35L - Rapid Artist

good start for me with dandino at epsom, looks a very good horse that one!

Couple of good ones over the pond there mate.

You on Joanna tomorrow?

The interesting one is one I've put up already who ran well behind Askanna who showed her stamina after the last to win.

Shame that the winners were short and Recession Proof was woeful as were Jaconet and Crimea whilst Rapid Artist had a mass change of tactics and was held up today.

Yeah I really like Royal Bench at a massive price tomorrow - put him up as a possible Guineas horse but he was pulled out on the day, think he's been saved for this and will be better on the better ground, he hosed up by 8 on his 3yo debut in a 1m conditions race in a good time, it was a good race time-wise when compared to the fillies equivalent in which Irish 1000 Guineas runner-up Anna Salai finished second in. He's a best priced 50/1 with Stan James.

The other horse I like in this is the Czech radier Shamalgan who disappointed in a couple of trials for the Guineas earlier in the year before finishing a staying on third having been held up out the back in the French Guineas itself. 40/1 looks a fair price about him though he'll need luck in running if they're to hold him up like they did in the Guineas.

Royal Bench was as low as 9/1 for the French Guineas so 50/1 is a cracking price.

Yeah he was - there's always a doubt over the trip but again I think they've over-reacted to the strength of the British/Irish horses, if we were really 6-7lbs better than our continental cousins then I'd be all over the likes of Cape Blanco but Workforce obviously improved from the Dante and was a different horse today as Stoute left a fair bit to work on.

3/1 about a horse in a 23 runner Group 1 is a nonsense price and I'll go through the other leading contenders and why I've ruled them out:

Planteur - I've been all over this horse for this race since last winter when I was impressed by a run over 9f, he has a top jockey on board in Anthony Crastus and has beaten the Epsom third Rewilding already this season. Just not that keen on taking 5/1 about a horse in a 23 runner race.

Ice Blue - Won both his trials as a 3yo most notably over 10f at Saint-Cloud last time out, was previously a scorer over 11f and gives the impression that he might be more of a Grand Prix De Paris horse than a Derby horse.

Behkabad - Been the buzzhorse for this since last Autumn and is a well bred sort for Frances top numbers trainer with IMO the best jockey in the world booked to ride. Had the run of the race last time out when able to slow it up and then kick on off the final turn and I have a feeling he might find one or two too good.

Simon De Montfort - Shown improved form as a 3yo for Andre Fabre prior to being switched to the Newmarket stable of Mahmood Al Zarooni. There was a chance Godolphin could have had Maxime Guyon on Mickael Barzalona riding in the big race, they have Ahmed Ajtebi instead. That should be enough to stop him from winning.

Sorry for not answering your query on Flo Jo earlier Wire_85 - I won't be backing her tomorrow unless she's a ridiculous price, 7/2 or so as IMO she needs a drop back to 7f having shown so much speed in both the Imprudence and the French Guineas.

All aboard Royal Bench then



Workforce was in another league today

I'm staying away from this thread. Not had a winner all week. Awful.

Going for bulls today off scratch, also daft bet on all super league games going under on points 4 timer

Good luck all.

Brighton 4.30 Hi Shinko 16/1 E/W

Claimer taking 3 lbs off only 1 lb higher then last win

Done Royal Bench again @ 40/1 E/W with Sky bet as they pay 4 places and thats with Simon De Montfort as a non runner.

How much did you put on Royal Bench? In to 28/1 now!

Not enough to do that



You can get 40s elsewhere but don't think they pay 4 places but PP have it @ 28/1 without big fav Cape Blanco in the field.

Had two bets yesterday, a tenner on Iventor at Hexham and a free bet of £20 on Jan Vermeer, so relatively happy.

Bulls not at the races today - They are a team I find very difficult to predict.

Haven't had a bet yet today.

Done Quins -6.

had the bulls and wigan to beat the handicap, one way off and one last minute kick in the teeth
quins to save the day?

hope you was on the giants today .. i was!

11/8

Easy money.

... and talking of easy money.

I know it is a while away, but it seems as if he will be lightly campaigned and still have enough left come October. St Nicholas Abbey for the Arc. The talent is there and I'm certain he will pick up a big race before the season is over to silence all of his bashers at the Guineas.