While I agree with you that there are a few wingers in the prem better than Valencia what has going past someone got to do with being a winger,surely the job of a winger is to supply crosses for the forwards not to show how fast he is by running past the full back.

Over the past three games, quite a lot. He's been our most effective player too. Without him and his crossing, United wouldn't have scored 4 goals.

I'm not bothered if he doesn't take on players as regularly or as easily as Lennon does. His final ball into the box, is IMO much better than Lennon's, and he is able to get the ball into decent areas for attackers, even when surrounded by two men. He has been our key man, and has stepped up since Giggs' absence.

Not only that, but his link up play with Rafael, Neville, Fletcher and Park down the right wing has been great, so that we've been able to add something different to the attack. Our right hand side is our most dangerous when Valencia plays.



Likewise with Drogba at Chelsea, Fabregas at Arsenal and Tevez at City.

How many times has David Beckham gone past someone in his career? Quality of delivery > beating a man for Fergie.

Inter 1-0 up already. Milito!

Come on Inter

Come on Inter.

If Kalou doesn't wave his hands round there i reckon that gets given. Shouldn't he of been booked though?

I seem to remember having this conversation regarding Ronaldo last season.

I called pen straight away and would still give it after replay

EE is like a poor man's adrian durham, without the bites.

It was a blatant pen. Inter player was wrong side went into Kalou, fell over and clipped his foot as he fell. Awful refereeing, but even worse linesmanship.

A booking for Kalou??? Yeah, really rub the salt in after not giving a pen that he should have done.

Thought the booking for the Inter player for diving was harsh as well. Carvalho threw out a stupid foot which didn't connect. Not a pen, boot shouldn't have been a yellow for him either.

Wouldn't surprise me if thats Cech's season done.

Cech injured.

Chelsea will have a good keeper playing now and maybe one who doesnt make mistakes.

Yep i thought it was a penalty as well. I just think that throwing his hands in the air hasn't helped Kalou there. The ref has already turned one down at one end for a dive, swan diving won't of helped. My point was he booked the other Inter fella, if he thought it wasn't a penalty surely he gives Kalou a 2nd yellow? It's that or a penalty surely?

Should've been a pen for Chelsea, however since when has a tackle from behind caused a player do a star jump?

Funny, but true.

Mancini: "we're going to Old Trafford and we're going to rip down the 33 years banner"



Manchester City - embarrassing Manchester for 34 years.

At the time, when I was at my angriest, I thought he wouldn't book Kalou because if he did, the game would have to be stopped and he'd have been getting it in the ear from 5 Chelsea players about how he was not giving us a blatant pen. Far easier for him to let play on where the CFC players would have to carry on with the short time remaining.

It would've been no pen, no booking if the ref felt the Inter defender had won a fair challenge and during that fair challenge taken Kalou down. That'll be his reasoning IMO, but where he gets the fair challenge from I don't know.

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On the whole I thought it was a pretty good performance from us. Poor result, and poor defending at times cost us very dear, but all the luck was with Inter. Their second goal was particularly galling. We'd had half a dozen similar chances like that and the bounce of the ball went wrong for us. Their first attack after our goal and the ball sits up perfectly for them to score.

Citeh lost???











Adebayor got a red as well, didn't he? Straight red for an elbow, I read. Isn't that a 4 match ban because it's his 2nd red for violent conduct this season?

3-1 aet.

Didn't see Adebayor's red, but it was given for violent conduct.

Terry still looks as though his head is elsewhere. He was poor in the first half.

Ingerland will be fooked versus Egypt. I can't think of any centre backs on form or fit ATM.

Wasn't sure on Jose's subs. I'd have took Milito off for Pandev and let Eto'o lead the line for the latter stages. Milito is a quality player, wanted us to get him a few years ago when Zaragoza went down. I'll be very surprised if he, Samuel and Cambiasso don't go to the WC, but anything is possible with Diego.

Arshavin Played 24 scored 7 with 1 assist
Milner Played 25 scored 4 with 11 assists
Valencia played 27 scored 5 with 9 assists
the rest of your list isn't even worth looking up

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez gets grilled by Romania's press and asked: Why are you so fat? www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... y-fat.html

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez gets grilled by Romania's press and asked: Why are you so fat? www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... y-fat.html

Yeah but at least they don't have to put up with average players like Valencia