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| Quote ="faxtastic"recall an incident a few years ago. a different scenario but still sportsmanship.
the goalkeeper was down on the ground injured outside the area and a player crossed the ball into Di Canio who caught the ball instead of putting the ball into an open net.
the bottom line you can say what you want but i bet that for years to come Henry will be remembered for that alot- you know its true because the Maradona incident still gets brought up now.'"
That was very sporting of Di Canio. But IMO it's pretty easy to be sporting when there's nothing riding on the outcome. Everton and West Ham were just involved in more mid-table dullness. It made pretty much no difference to either side that Di Canio did that.
If Henry had let that ball run out of play then France would probably be out of the World Cup. There'll be about 5 French football fans who would have preferred Henry not to have handled that ball. 30 million French football fans will be delighted France are in the World Cup and probably couldn't give a to55 how the goal came.
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| Said that to my mate before, if Gerrard does that to keep us in the CL this year, there'll be no complaints from me.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"That was very sporting of Di Canio. But IMO it's pretty easy to be sporting when there's nothing riding on the outcome. Everton and West Ham were just involved in more mid-table dullness. It made pretty much no difference to either side that Di Canio did that.
If Henry had let that ball run out of play then France would probably be out of the World Cup. There'll be about 5 French football fans who would have preferred Henry not to have handled that ball. 30 million French football fans will be delighted France are in the World Cup and probably couldn't give a to55 how the goal came.'"
i suppose its strikers instinct he did it for his country.
all i am saying that it is bound to have some sort of effect on the guys reputation.
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Said that to my mate before, if Gerrard does that to keep us in the CL this year, there'll be no complaints from me.'"
Well it'll either be that or going down as if he's been shot
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| Seems to be a lot of excusers for cheats today. I mean, you don't find a victory ultimately tainted when one of your players cheats?
I don't think France fans "not giving a to55" (whatever that means) exhonerates Henry for his antics. He has brought the game into disrepute and ultimately calls to question the credibility of France's very appearance in the world cup. And what of the Ireland fans? I bet they "give a to55". Do they not count?
Cheats should be hounded and embarrassed for what they are. Particularly persistant ones like Henry and Gerrard.
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| Quote Dear me. Nothing like a dash of racism in the evening. Wait till the mods see what you've.... oh wait'"
It's OK to be racist against the French but not the Irish...great logic.
ie cheese eating surrender monkeys, froggy s, petulant froggy twa@t etc etc.
Has Henry tried to explain himself yet and cover what was downright cheating?? The old "it was a natural reaction" answer as players tend to do??
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| My girlfriend is French and a passionate fan of Les Bleus and Henry is her favourite player. She was embarrassed for what he did and it tainted a very exciting match. I think Henry and Gallas' reaction told the whole story after the goal and the game. A shocking act of cheating and terrible officiating. It would be nice to see FIFA act and get the technology nearly all fans want after this but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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| How the linesman never saw that i do not know.
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Said that to my mate before, if Gerrard does that to keep us in the CL this year, there'll be no complaints from me.'"
Well his diving doesn't bother you so why would any other form of cheating
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| Quote ="Captain Jack Sparrow"My girlfriend is French and a passionate fan of Les Bleus and Henry is her favourite player. She was embarrassed for what he did and it tainted a very exciting match. I think Henry and Gallas' reaction told the whole story after the goal and the game. A shocking act of cheating and terrible officiating. It would be nice to see FIFA act and get the technology nearly all fans want after this but I wouldn't hold my breath.'"
Made up girlfriends are the best aren't they
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| Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"Made up girlfriends are the best aren't they
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I have no idea what you mean?
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"
Cheats should be hounded and embarrassed for what they are. Particularly persistant ones like Henry and Gerrard.'"
How selective from a United fan. What exactly do you mean by cheat by the way? Do you mean dive? If so, you can add about 5000 names to the 2 you mentioned. If not, can you give examples of where Gerrard has cheated as clearly as Henry did last night?
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"
Cheats should be hounded and embarrassed for what they are. Particularly persistant ones like Henry and Gerrard.'"
You my friend are an idiot. If we were to ban said cheats, we'd have to do it around the world. The sport of Football will no longer be the great spectacle it is today.
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| Quote ="Sam Buca"You my friend are an idiot. If we were to ban said cheats, we'd have to do it around the world. The sport of Football will no longer be the great spectacle it is today.'"
and Didier Dogbreath and Ronaldo would be banned for life with all the diving they do
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| Quote ="Sam Buca"You my friend are an idiot. If we were to ban said cheats, we'd have to do it around the world. The sport of Football will no longer be the great spectacle it is today.'"
Didn't UEFA attempt to do this with Eduardo? Unfortunately it's just not practical to look at every incident after the game. Would of been interesting had the extra 2 officials trial been involved in last nights game surely the handball would of been picked up. As for video refs slowing down the game then thats a load of rubbish, football is stop start as it is an extra 30 seconds after a major incident isn't going to make a difference. Maybe a coaches challenge system such as the NFL would work? Where a manager can ask for an incident to be reviewed?
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"DMaybe a coaches challenge system such as the NFL would work? Where a manager can ask for an incident to be reviewed?'"
I like the challenge idea. You get 2 a half? Saying that Fergie would challenge everything that went against them.
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| Quote ="OrdsallRed"It's OK to be racist against the French but not the Irish...great logic.
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Has Henry tried to explain himself yet and cover what was downright cheating?? The old "it was a natural reaction" answer as players tend to do??'"
I'll have to disagree with you on that one. Can't abide racism myself.
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| Quote ="Sam Buca"I like the challenge idea. You get 2 a half? Saying that Fergie would challenge everything that went against them.'"
He might do but if he lost the first 2 then he would be buggered!
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| Gentleman (and Ladies if appropriate)
Although I tend to leave this thread alone normally and leave you all to it, after having a browse through the previous thread after locking it. I notice there is a rather a few of you bypassing the swear filter and leaving profanities in the thread.
This needs to be curbed [uimmediately[/u please.
People with an inablity to post without using such terms or bypassing the swear filter may find their posting rights revoked from this forum.
It will be one warning and out.
This starts from now, everyone has a clean slate.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"
Cheats should be hounded and embarrassed for what they are. Particularly persistant ones like Henry and Gerrard.'"
A United "fan" bemoaning the fact that cheats play for other clubs. Remarkable.
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| Felt for the Irish, what a way to lose. Hang your head in shame Henry!
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"Seems to be a lot of excusers for cheats today. I mean, you don't find a victory ultimately tainted when one of your players cheats?'"
You don't care that Rio Ferdinand should have been red carded in the 2008 CL Final, do you? Scousers don't care that Gerrard dived to help them win the CL. Barca fans don't care that they needed the help of the most corrupt/incompetent ref ever to grace the game to reach the CL final last season.
Quote I don't think France fans "not caring less" exhonerates Henry for his antics.'"
I've never said he should be exonerated. He cheated to get France to SA. He knows it, everyone knows it.
But IMO he'd look at it as a price worth paying.
Quote He has brought the game into disrepute and ultimately calls to question the credibility of France's very appearance in the world cup. And what of the Ireland fans? I bet they "give a to55". Do they not count?'"
Not to Thiery Henry. Only his team mates, manager and supporters will count to him.
Some people will say France's appearance at the WC will be tainted. IMO they'll prefer a tainted appearance at the WC to being sat at home any day.
Quote Cheats should be hounded and embarrassed for what they are. Particularly persistant ones like Henry and Gerrard.'"
You won the last three titles on the back of the biggest cheat in the world. Your manager is the biggest culprit of pressurising referees in the world. Is that not a form of cheating, because it's clearly against the rules.
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| Quote ="Sam Buca"France 16/1 to win world cup
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1/16 for the basketball world cup though.
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