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| Have to say I agree with LGJM on this one. Tough titty if you have to travel over a couple of days to get to the game. If you can make it there any which way then the game should go ahead in my opinion.
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"Have to say I agree with LGJM on this one.'"
Me too
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| As someone that doesn't mind Hull City (I know I'm in a minority on here!!) but who does hate West Ham, I'm hoping for a Hull victory tonight to pile the pressure on West Ham. I'm also praying that it's Fulham, of all teams, who send the Appy Ammers down
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| Quote ="Ordsall Quays Red"As someone that doesn't mind Hull City (I know I'm in a minority on here!!) but who does hate West Ham, I'm hoping for a Hull victory tonight to pile the pressure on West Ham. I'm also praying that it's Fulham, of all teams, who send the Appy Ammers down
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1-0 to Villa. Agbonlahor with the goal.
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| Really annoying having these semis commentated on by people watching it in a studio and not at the match itself
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| Have some of that Ribery you dirty, ugly little w.anker.
Horrible challenge.
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| Quote ="Ordsall Quays Red"Have some of that Ribery you dirty, ugly little w.anker.
Horrible challenge.'"
I get the feeling he might have had other things on his mind the last few days than playing football.
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| 10 V 10 now. Very harsh second booking, IMO. Both had there feet up going for the ball, don't even think it was a foul.
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| Quote ="The Boy TC"Really annoying having these semis commentated on by people watching it in a studio and not at the match itself'"
ITV - rubbish
That was a pretty poor decision for the second yellow, wasnt even a foul
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| They'd have had to get there by coach and ferry - there's no way you could expect them to be on top of their commentary under such testing circumstances.
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| Whoever just stole Robbens goal take a boo son
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| If Glazer's gunna whack out another loan to strengthen the side this summer, I do hope he avoids Ribery.
I just wish we'd tried harder to get Robben before Chelski came in for him.
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| 2-0 to Villa now. Milner penalty.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Quote ="Robbie Rotten"I wasn't actually thinking about us when mentioning the Inter comment, I just thought it could have held influence on the game. '"
Of course you weren't. I believe you.
The fact that Liverpool were on a longer and even more arduous trek across Europe never crossed your mind when you were saying that Inter had an advantage because of Barca's travelling.
Quote Those kind of games, in order to win them you have to be razor sharp, on your ball for 90 minutes, preparation and tactics have to be spot on, if not, it can be very costly. I felt Uefa could have delayed the game for a week or so, I'm not sure how it is for supporters, but I'm guessing they'll have to drive/train it there, too?'"
The dates for the semi finals were set. If UEFA start altering dates just because air travel isn't available then sides will be putting in appeals for all type of innocuous reasons if a couple of star players are out.
We're in the business end of the season, for most of the sides they are also involved in tight title challenges. Altering games just because air travel isn't available would be out of order IMO. The travelling sides have just got to suck it up and get on with it.
Quote It doesn't help that we had to play on a Monday, either, despite us and Fulham being the only sides left in Europe, you'd think we'd get a Saturday kick off with our extra long drive to Madrid.'"
You've got the advantage of playing at home in the second leg. You'll be happy because of that. Because of an Icelandic volcano Bayern, Inter and Athletico gained an advantage. You're not happy about that, so you want the date of the game changed. UEFA are dead right to say tough 5hit. If you were the home side and Athletico were travelling to Liverpool you wouldn't care less about their inconvenience. You'd want to keep the advantage you've received.
Teams can use adversity to bond themselves together or they can let the adversity be an excuse for their failure. Given the overwhelming vvankfest that's been thrown for Barca, they should have been good enough to shrug off the coach travel.'"
You can make all the accusations you want, when I wrote the comment about Barca, it was purely about Barca, I wasn't hinting at an excuse for Liverpool or thinking about Liverpool when I wrote it, I was thinking about Barca as I felt it was unfair that they'd received a hindrance for such a major game.
This isn't about consistent changing dates, it's just about being a little more flexible during times when something is clearly affecting the competition. How are our supporters supposed to get there? Why can't they just delay the game for a few games for the benefit of our team and supporters? If Atletico had to travel, I'd say exactly the same as I'd want a fair tie and I'd see it as unfair on their supporters and team, because it is. The whole 'home and away' advantage is mythical, what good will having them at home in the second leg be if they beat us 3-0 at their place because we had disruptive match preparations?
You can say all you like about Barca and the vvankfest, maybe the coach travel didn't affect them, maybe it won't affect us, but we'll never know but what we do know is they put in a sub-par performance against Inter. As I already said, these games are hard enough to win alone, without having added obstacles. Atletico, Inter, Hamburg and Bayern won't face such obstacles in a couple of weeks, we'll obviously have to accept it and get on with it, but it isn't 'fair' on the teams or the supporters.
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"You can make all the accusations you want, when I wrote the comment about Barca, it was purely about Barca, I wasn't hinting at an excuse for Liverpool or thinking about Liverpool when I wrote it, I was thinking about Barca as I felt it was unfair that they'd received a hindrance for such a major game.
This isn't about consistent changing dates, it's just about being a little more flexible during times when something is clearly affecting the competition. How are our supporters supposed to get there? Why can't they just delay the game for a few games for the benefit of our team and supporters? If Atletico had to travel, I'd say exactly the same as I'd want a fair tie and I'd see it as unfair on their supporters and team, because it is. The whole 'home and away' advantage is mythical, what good will having them at home in the second leg be if they beat us 3-0 at their place because we had disruptive match preparations?
You can say all you like about Barca and the vvankfest, maybe the coach travel didn't affect them, maybe it won't affect us, but we'll never know but what we do know is they put in a sub-par performance against Inter. As I already said, these games are hard enough to win alone, without having added obstacles. Atletico, Inter, Hamburg and Bayern won't face such obstacles in a couple of weeks, we'll obviously have to accept it and get on with it, but it isn't 'fair' on the teams or the supporters.'"
Hypothetically what would you suggest if the ash cloud had hung around for a couple of months like it apparently could of?
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"Hypothetically what would you suggest if the ash cloud had hung around for a couple of months like it apparently could of?'"
Well then train/coach travel would be needed, but at least the other team would get the same treatment. I wasn't say hold out for X amount of time, just a few extra days, maybe a week or so, it's not like Liverpool have a bad fixture list, but I think it would take some shifting around for Atletico to accommodate it.
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| Quote ="Paddy Evra"I just wish we'd tried harder to get Robben before Chelski came in for him.'"
He's an awesome player, but he's just not strong enough for the Premier League.
As soon as anyone leaves Chelsea I lose interest in them. The only exception to that is Jose Mourinho and Arjen Robben. I'll be very pleased if they go up against each other in the CL final.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"He's an awesome player, but he's just not strong enough for the Premier League.
As soon as anyone leaves Chelsea I lose interest in them. The only exception to that is Jose Mourinho and Arjen Robben. I'll be very pleased if they go up against each other in the CL final.'"
That'll be well romantic for you, like. Why Robben? Why not Duff? Shevchenko? Gudjohnsen? Del Horno?
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"[size=150He's an awesome player, but he's just not strong enough for the Premier League.[/size
As soon as anyone leaves Chelsea I lose interest in them. The only exception to that is Jose Mourinho and Arjen Robben. I'll be very pleased if they go up against each other in the CL final.'"
you forgot to mention that he is a cheating tw at who feigns injury to get the opposition goalkeeper sent off..................
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| Quote ="Javier Mascherano"you forgot to mention that he is a cheating tw at who feigns injury to get the opposition goalkeeper sent off..................'"
He should've been sent off for the lunge on Gudjohnsen anyway.
He would've got a red card for shoving him like that anyway, no matter whether Robben went down like a big girl like he did or stayed on his feet.
Robben was/is/always will be a diver. But IMO his dives merely redress the balance for all the dirty 8astards who kick the 5hit out of him anyway.
And lastly, he was just emulating the whiny voiced, cheating scumbag Emlyn Hughes. (Type Emlyn Hughes, cheat into the website that shall not be named to see typical scouse behaviour. I'm sure his team mates would have been "having a word." )
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"
He would've got a red card for shoving him like that anyway, no matter whether Robben went down like a big girl like he did or stayed on his feet.
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All he did was put his hand/glove on his cheek. Didn't lash out or anything towards Robben. Hence why i'll never like him.
And it was handball by Gudjohnsen in the first place
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| Quote ="Sam Buca"All he did was put his hand/glove on his cheek. Didn't lash out or anything towards Robben. Hence why i'll never like him.
And it was handball by Gudjohnsen in the first place'"
Which is a sending off, no matter what Robben did afterwards.
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| Quote ="Sam Buca"All he did was put his hand/glove on his cheek. Didn't lash out or anything towards Robben. Hence why i'll never like him.'"
Still a red card.
A red card he should've been getting anyway for lunging into the back of Gudjohnsen.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"He should've been sent off for the lunge on Gudjohnsen anyway.
He would've got a red card for shoving him like that anyway, no matter whether Robben went down like a big girl like he did or stayed on his feet.
Robben was/is/always will be a diver. But IMO his dives merely redress the balance for all the dirty 8astards who kick the 5hit out of him anyway.
And lastly, [size=150he was just emulating the whiny voiced, cheating scumbag Emlyn Hughes. (Type Emlyn Hughes, cheat into the website that shall not be named to see typical scouse behaviour. I'm sure his team mates would have been "having a word." [/sizeicon_rolleyes.gif )'"
how many times did you watch emlyn hughes play?
oh and BTW i didn't know that scousers come from barrow in furness??? tit
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